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Muslim executed for trying to "split" China
Reuters ^ | Fri 9 Feb 2007 | Benjamin Kang Lim

Posted on 02/09/2007 3:43:02 PM PST by jonassen

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To: zimdog; lqclamar
I would not be surprised if reading FR was a crime in the PRC.

Nor would I be surprised if reading a Bible in Saudi Arabia was a crime.
Which brings to mind an interesting post on this blog

"Oh DJ my friend, you will learn eventually that Communism and Islam are really one and the same...both founded by evil men, both brutish systems that kill anyone who dares to dissent, both systems through all means that force one to believe in its draconian codes, both murderous to their core.....both totalitarian systems...one wrapped in the veneer of arab religiosity and other wrapped in the veneer of power to the people...."

61 posted on 02/10/2007 7:30:32 AM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

There was never anything "fair" about the "assimilation".

The "assimilated" group is throughout the period of "assimilation" rendered second class, not brought into commanding positions, not included in the best possibilities, economically or politically, until such time has passed that the fact that the Han had displaced (you call it "absorbed") the minority that the distinction was no longer obvious.

And you are wrong that this process has always blended ethnicities. Many of the current peoples of Vietnam, Laos, Thailand and Burma represent ethnic groups whose ancestors once resided in what is now southern China, until the constant attacks, militarily, and imperially after conquest, forced them to migrate south, in such large numbers that they in turn displaced the former dominant groups in those areas.

Just as today, the culture and identity of Tibet is being obliterated by what you call "assimilation". It is cultural genocide and nothing less. It has, and has never had anything to with the "security" of the Han. It's Han imperialism and it always has been.


62 posted on 02/10/2007 8:12:01 AM PST by Wuli
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To: kanawa

This fight between the Chinese and jihadis reminds me of the old comment by Kissinger - it's too bad both sides can't lose.


63 posted on 02/10/2007 10:41:25 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: Wuli
You obviously are of the opinion that the Han Chinese's takeover of other people's was bad--and not necessarily disagreeing with you on that point.

However, while some groups did flee south to other countries in Southeast Asia, most were eventually assimilated. Again, not necessarily disagreeing that those minority groups were initially considered secondary citizens, but obviously they eventually became part of the Han ethnicity--which is why there are more than a billion people who consider themselves Han Chinese.

And don't put words in hands (similar to words in mouth)--where in the comment(s) do you read that the "process has always blended ethnicities?" Oh, it's not there. You figured that one on your own--using your own biases?

64 posted on 02/11/2007 12:31:57 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: samadams2000

Tell me about it!

I hate to say it, but... damn, the rest of the civilized world could stand to take a cue from those Commie bastards every now and then.


65 posted on 02/11/2007 12:34:00 AM PST by Zeon Cowboy ("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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To: 353FMG
China will probably be the only country that will survive the muslim onslaught.

The Japanese would seem to have a good chance.
The question then becomes, will they be able to survive the Chinese onslaught?

66 posted on 02/11/2007 6:14:02 PM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"And don't put words in hands (similar to words in mouth)--where in the comment(s) do you read that the "process has always blended ethnicities?" Oh, it's not there. You figured that one on your own--using your own biases?"

You are right, mea culpa, mea culpa. I guess where you used the term "generally", I would have used a less complete term of "sometimes", because when the main body of an ethnic group or culture gets forcefully depleted and scattered, the "assimilation" of its remnants, in their now diverse locales, appears less of a genocide than it actually is.

"Generally" what I object most to is that your language on this issue mirrors 100% the language of all Han leaders, whether they be former or current emperors. That language attempts to impose the image that what has "developed" (standards of living, standards of law and practice, for instance) would not and could not have been equaled in any locale of "China" in any other way.

That is the language used throughout every phase of every Chinese emperor's reign and it is the language used now in regard to the invasion of the Han into the lands of the Uighurs and the Tibetans. It is a lie that human progress and development would not and could have obtained to the diverse peoples in any other way.

It is the language of imperialism, not truth.


67 posted on 02/12/2007 12:16:19 PM PST by Wuli
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To: jonassen

Misleading headline. He had explosives too.

Pan Islam Pan Turkism on the march. China has the right to get rid of its home grown terrorists.


68 posted on 04/01/2008 1:01:15 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: jonassen

According to the Chinese the “peaceful” Ugyurs have links to Al Quaeda too.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/16/content_290658.htm


69 posted on 04/01/2008 1:06:07 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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