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To: Wuli
You obviously are of the opinion that the Han Chinese's takeover of other people's was bad--and not necessarily disagreeing with you on that point.

However, while some groups did flee south to other countries in Southeast Asia, most were eventually assimilated. Again, not necessarily disagreeing that those minority groups were initially considered secondary citizens, but obviously they eventually became part of the Han ethnicity--which is why there are more than a billion people who consider themselves Han Chinese.

And don't put words in hands (similar to words in mouth)--where in the comment(s) do you read that the "process has always blended ethnicities?" Oh, it's not there. You figured that one on your own--using your own biases?

64 posted on 02/11/2007 12:31:57 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"And don't put words in hands (similar to words in mouth)--where in the comment(s) do you read that the "process has always blended ethnicities?" Oh, it's not there. You figured that one on your own--using your own biases?"

You are right, mea culpa, mea culpa. I guess where you used the term "generally", I would have used a less complete term of "sometimes", because when the main body of an ethnic group or culture gets forcefully depleted and scattered, the "assimilation" of its remnants, in their now diverse locales, appears less of a genocide than it actually is.

"Generally" what I object most to is that your language on this issue mirrors 100% the language of all Han leaders, whether they be former or current emperors. That language attempts to impose the image that what has "developed" (standards of living, standards of law and practice, for instance) would not and could not have been equaled in any locale of "China" in any other way.

That is the language used throughout every phase of every Chinese emperor's reign and it is the language used now in regard to the invasion of the Han into the lands of the Uighurs and the Tibetans. It is a lie that human progress and development would not and could have obtained to the diverse peoples in any other way.

It is the language of imperialism, not truth.


67 posted on 02/12/2007 12:16:19 PM PST by Wuli
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