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Axis of Ethanol
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | 8 Feb 2007 | Staff

Posted on 02/08/2007 7:35:28 PM PST by Kitten Festival

Energy: Could lowly switch grass mow down the petropower tyranny of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez? A U.S.-Brazil ethanol pact signed this week may supply the fuel to do just that.

Chavez's hostile anti-American dictatorship grows worse as his oil earnings pile up. With the U.S. as his best customer, buying about a quarter, or 1.1 million barrels, of Venezuelan crude oil each day, the bitter coda is that every barrel we buy fuels his anti-U.S. actions.

These range from crazed speeches to colonial acquisitions like Bolivia to rogue-state alliances with Iran and Zimbabwe to menacing moves against neighbors like Dominica, Guyana and Colombia with $4 billion in weapons purchases.

High oil prices, low supply and his own expropriations of foreign oil partners in Venezuela only increase Chavez's oil cash and clout. The U.S. has been largely helpless, because it has few alternatives to buying Venezuelan crude.

But a new deal announced with Brazil to pool ethanol technology and produce greater quantities of ethanol in both countries could help. ...

The ultimate aim of the ethanol deal is to create a commodity market. This could give every country in the region alternatives for energy buying. In turn, it will undercut Chavez's monopoly and abusive influence.

Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns, who flew to Brazil to iron out the deal, made no secret of that. "Energy has tended to distort the power of some of the states we find to be negative in the world — Venezuela, Iran," said Burns, quoted in the Washington Post. "And so the more we can diversify our energy sources and depend less on oil, the better off we will be."

...this signals an impressive new U.S. diplomatic offensive

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: brazil; chavez; corn; cornsqueezins; energy; ethanol; hugoping; oil; renewableenergy; switchgrass
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To: SierraWasp
"There are laws of thermodynamics and economics at work here with all these "alternative fuel" ideas the keep getting right smack in the danged way!!! Are you aware of that???"

I know all about economics. I was just explainin' to a feller the other day, "That there car part came from Germany. It's an import. That's why it's more expensive; it had to cross an ocean to get here."

"It's not like something cheap you can get from China."

81 posted on 02/08/2007 9:08:55 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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To: mylife
Yes, it's amusing how his vocabulary has grown while in office!!! I guess that's why Letterman has a nightly bit called "Great Moments In Presidential Speeches" that are a big hit on his show.

I know, I know... but at least he's funnier than Leno!!!

82 posted on 02/08/2007 9:11:37 PM PST by SierraWasp (Grayout Davis, Gang-Green Schwartzenegger... Recycled Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! Watch for it in 4!!!)
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To: mylife
"I'm sure there are loads of switch grass fans. Heck, someone has the POTUS using it as a buzzword."

He also said, "cellulosic." I was pleased.

If I had known he was going to say it, I would have been crossing my fingers that he got it right.

83 posted on 02/08/2007 9:12:53 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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To: NicknamedBob; SierraWasp
The Laws of Thermodynamics

Goodnight all

84 posted on 02/08/2007 9:13:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SierraWasp

I like letterman too L0L


85 posted on 02/08/2007 9:14:39 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NicknamedBob
I'm sure you do know all about economics. However, some on here just go ape wild over each goofy new alternative energy fad that raises it's goofy head because they're so desperate to run from the troublemakers over seas.

If we're so troubled by the troublemakers in the oil rich areas, why do we ever even kid ourselves that we're some kind of "SUPERPOWER?" Why do we keep buying into the Liberal nonsense that we have no right to exploit the wealth that comes out of the ground?

As a nation... Are we strong/brilliant men/women, or are we little girleymice/sissycats who have to be taught a lesson by terrorists??? Well???

86 posted on 02/08/2007 9:20:13 PM PST by SierraWasp (Grayout Davis, Gang-Green Schwartzenegger... Recycled Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! Watch for it in 4!!!)
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To: mylife
Good! Goodnight and please dream a little dream for me about sinkin an oilwell in ANWR and watchin that sucker come in with a bang and blowin that black gold into the sky just like back in the day with the wildcatters in TX.

I mean shucks! We could make a new movie, or even make a re-make of "GIANT!" Are you too young to remember that one? Git back to me on that before you throw the big switch, ok? (grin)

87 posted on 02/08/2007 9:24:53 PM PST by SierraWasp (Grayout Davis, Gang-Green Schwartzenegger... Recycled Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! Watch for it in 4!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

I like cheese.


88 posted on 02/08/2007 9:25:05 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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To: NicknamedBob

Wull... I'll have to admit, I wasn't expectin THAT answer!!! (snort!)


89 posted on 02/08/2007 9:27:36 PM PST by SierraWasp (Grayout Davis, Gang-Green Schwartzenegger... Recycled Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! Watch for it in 4!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

A soft answer. I have advisers.


90 posted on 02/08/2007 9:30:36 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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To: SierraWasp

If we try to solve all of our problems at the same time, we'll go as crazy as the Liberals.

Let us focus our attention on those things we can do. Let the oil men drill; let the farmers grow food in abundance; let the scientists and the chemists and the engineers work out ways to spin straw into black gold.

And let the Liberals ... um ... let's see, the Liberals can, uh ...

I'll get back to you on that.


91 posted on 02/08/2007 9:34:56 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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To: SierraWasp

"Do you want an acute case on your hands? This woman has immediate postprandial upper abdominal distention!"


92 posted on 02/08/2007 9:46:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SierraWasp

If you could turn kudzu into a viable fuel, then you wouldn't need to spend millions on growing the stuff. It just grows no matter what you do to stop it. Just go out and cut it every few days and turn it into whatever kind of biofuel you want. The same goes for some of those invasive plants clogging our lakes like milfoil and hydrilla.


93 posted on 02/08/2007 9:48:50 PM PST by yawningotter
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To: NicknamedBob
A soft answer.
Brie, then.
94 posted on 02/08/2007 9:53:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mylife
--can you enlighten us as to the "grade" of venuzuelan oil?--

They have more than one grade.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/2006publications/CEC-600-2006-006/CEC-600-2006-006.PDF
See page 9, table 2 for some comparisons. Similar sulfur to Saudi Arabia, similar but lower API°s. They have heavier crude as well.
95 posted on 02/08/2007 10:19:09 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: mylife
--"grade" of venuzuelan oil?--

That first reply now sounds like I overstated its quality, that was just a sample of some of what the export. They have some really poor quality oil as well. Perhaps the value of their product would be a better comparison.

http://www.opec.org/library/Annual%20Statistical%20Bulletin/pdf/ASB2005.pdf
It is a big file, but page 117, you can see they have some of the cheapest stuff, low value like Mexican Maya junk.
96 posted on 02/08/2007 10:28:58 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: GSlob
Ted K. is an honorary chair

Ted is the Grand Poobah for life and beyond.

97 posted on 02/08/2007 10:32:00 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: Dog Gone
Ethanol is a joke unless we start making it out of food.

There is an effort to make ethanol from sawgrass. That is much better than wasting corn. It's still all the bad things listed by Sierra Wasp. Better than MTBE, but still damaging to vehicles.

98 posted on 02/08/2007 10:38:35 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: marron; StJacques; livius

ping!


99 posted on 02/08/2007 10:59:01 PM PST by Kitten Festival
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To: mylife

I see it that way, too. I want to hear him scream.


100 posted on 02/08/2007 11:00:41 PM PST by Kitten Festival
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