Al-Qaeda's anti-aircraft squads ~ with Iran's assistance doing serious damage to copters in Iraq...

The Fourth Rail ^ | February 7 , 2007 | Bill Roggio

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

This is an Excerpt.....

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

fyi

[Paladin2]

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran (big time).

[FLOutdoorsman]

Seems like Iran is acting like we did when we supplied the SAM's to the Afghan's.

[himno hero]

whats the price of 1 machine and 7 American lives? for one strella?

someone should take the wind out of their suppliers sails.

[txroadkill]

someone should take the wind out of their suppliers sails.

Exactly, if we lose a chopper, we should take out an Iranian air field. We see a vehicle coming across the border, we take out the vehicle and wherever it came from. They need to learn to fear getting involved.

[SunkenCiv]

The suspicion is the Islamic Republic of Iran is behind supplying al-Qaeda with the needed weapons...

I think the thing to do would be to remove US troops from the Balkans, and watch as the Iranians flood in there. The EU's opposition to military action against Iran will evaporate quickly -- or there will burning cars across Euro-countries other than France.

[SunkenCiv]

al-qaeda balkans site:freerepublic.com

Google

[RunningWolf]

This is a big hurt for the lives lost, but it is good we find out now in order to make alterations to the plans.

What am I talking about? I have seen the footage of the kind of fire the Apache was subject to in development, and it is a surprise that it is brought down by man pads.

Well maybe not, depending on the numbers launched at it from all angles. In other words, it may have been the target of a barrage, which cant be replicated everyday by the enemy.

[himno hero]

i think the price of intermeddling should be higher. 10 fold the losses to the humanitarian efforts in ME democracy.

IMO

[TigersEye]

Taking all these punches from Iran without payback is getting old. Decades old.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Doesn't seem to bother those on the left!

[TomasUSMC]

Bush has done and continues to do nothing to Iran and Syria. They in turn continue to kill our troops and now, they will have 20 thousand more handcuffed troops to shoot at.... because we continue to fight with WORSE-THAN-NAM rules of engagement.

Split it up, Split and crush Iran with ICBMs... let see them shoot those down.

Otherwise we will continue to waste billions and BLOOD.
Heck, if there was peace in Iraq tomorrow

THE FINAL PRODUCT WOULD BE -
an oil rich shiite controlled country that considers US to be INFIDELS! opps that is the exact definition of Iran...wow.

[MHGinTN]

Have to agree with number three ... bomb the hell out of them to get their attention. There is a world wide war for the dominance of civilizations afoot. Do we want to lose that to fourteenth century primitives waging war against Western Civilization?

[himno hero]

perhaps our role should be crusaders?

[MHGinTN]

Well and truly stated!

[TigersEye]

Defending America isn't a Democratic's concern.

[Southack]

"The cells are thought to be armed with Russian made Strela SA-7 anti-aircraft missiles, a first generation shoulder fired anti-aircraft missile which is widely distributed throughout the world."

The SA-7, HN-5, and the various Ayn as Saqr variants only have 2.5 pounds of high explosive. They seek out tailpipes.

One quick field response would be to weld longer exhausts down and away from one side of each helicopter. 10 feet away from the engine/fuel tank/cockpit would make a world of difference against 2.5 pounds of HE.

The launchers for those missiles have passive radio frequency receivers that point the operator toward an aircraft that is transmiting radio, has a Mode-3 or later transponder, or has an active radar. May have to turn those off for a while, boys.

Also, keep in mind that Al Qaeda was working on a chain-based ground system in Iraq to take out helicopters, plus Iran is fielding air-burst proximity-fused RPG's.

Owning the skies doesn't mean that you own the dust-zones. Helicopters are vulnerable to these new threats. Just as cavalry adapted in the past, obseleting old horses and embracing new modes of transportation, so too may we have to do it again (and expect similar levels of b!tc#ing from the horse lovers).

[Southack]

FYI, passive radio frequency receivers were what Hezbollah used last year to roughly track the location/direction of Israel's tanks in Lebanon...

So passive radio frequency receivers aren't just being used against our helicopters in Iraq.

[M. Espinola]

The amount of over due payback soon to be directed at Iran's terrorist thugs is mounting with each passing day.