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Cook County Assault Weapons Ban (Bans Shotguns-like Mossberg500)
Illinois State Rifle Association ^ | February,2007 | Illinois State Rifle Association

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:22:25 AM PST by Copernicus

ANALYSIS OF COOK COUNTY ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN

Effective November 14, 2006, a Cook County gun ban Ordinance criminalizes the otherwise lawful possession of many common firearms and large capacity magazines. The law provides for imprisonment up to 6 months, fines, and confiscation and destruction of the enumerated weapons. Owners of such firearms or large capacity magazines have until February 12, 2007 to either remove the affected guns and remove any large capacity magazines from Cook County or surrender them to the police for destruction.

What firearms and magazines are affected by this county wide ban? Over 60 firearms are specifically listed as being illegal, including the deer rifle popular in many Midwest states, the SKS with a detachable magazine. Popular self defense weapons like the Mossberg 500 pump, and popular target shooting semiautomatic AR-15 are also illegal. In addition, all magazines that can hold more than 10 shells are banned.

The Ordinance specifically bans any semiautomatic shotgun that has a fixed magazine with a capacity in excess of five rounds. Since shotgun shell rounds can be obtained in sizes as short as 2 inches, the ordinance can be construed to ban all common semiautomatic shotguns.

In addition to banning over 60 enumerated firearms, the Ordinance defines certain banned firearms with catch-all definitions. One such carefully worded definition bans any semiautomatic rifle that need not have, but has the ability to accept a large capacity magazine and has,

"A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel,"

A standard dictionary definition of the word shroud is, “something that covers, screens, or guards.” The ordinance defines this “shroud” as something that allows the holding of the rifle in the off hand that would keep the shooter’s off hand from being burned. The Ordinance only excludes from this categorization a “slide,” a term usually applying to the top piece of a semiautomatic handgun. Missing from the exclusion is any verbiage about “the forearm assembly,” “fore-end,” or “stock”. An arguable interpretation of the word “shroud” as used in the Cook County Ordinance would include the standard forearm or stock that allows normal two handed shooting.

In determining the likelihood of Ordinance being interpreted to cover all standard semiautomatic rifles, we can look to the past history in Cook County. The current and prior States Attorneys of Cook County have previously interpreted criminal statutes in an unreasonable manner to justify charging otherwise law abiding citizens with gun possession crimes. These prior anti-gun interpretations have defied common sense and contradicted prior case law. Because the interpretations have been publicly stated to be the official interpretation, all Cook County Assistant States Attorneys are required to use them in determining what charges would be filed. One of the recent examples of the way Cook County prosecutors interpret the law unreasonably has been their failure to acknowledge that current state law allows the carrying of an unloaded gun in specially designed fanny packs. One would expect the Cook County States Attorney’s Office to continue their tradition of interpreting gun laws in a manner to include as many gun owners as possible, and therefore to start charging under the new Ordinance owners of semiautomatic firearms that could be held by two hands, which is for all practical purposes, all semiautomatic rifles.

For a listing of the enumerated firearms that are banned, and the exact wording of the ordinance, see the third Ordinance listed: www.cookctyclerk.com/html/111406orddoc.htm

What can gun owners do? This ordinance primarly affects Cook county residents. For firearm owners living outside Cook County, the ordinance exempts from the statute the “transportation of assault weapons or large capacity magazine if such weapons are broken down and in a non-functioning state and are not immediately accessible to any person.” Such weapons may be transported while unloaded, broken down and cased in your trunk or otherwise not immediately accessible to the occupants of the vehicle. A locked case would make the weapons not immediately accessible for the owners of station wagons and SUVs.

For Cook County residents who possess the specifically listed firearms, until there is a successful court challenge to this ordinance with a published Appellate opinion, the only prudent legal option would be to relocate the banned firearms outside the geographical boundaries of Cook County. The ordinance criminalizes possession of the banned firearms inside of Cook County, not the mere ownership of the banned weapons possessed outside of Cook County.

Cook County residents who own semi-automatic shotguns and rifles that could arguably meet the generic ordinance definition of a banned assault weapon face a dilemma of uncertainty. Until there is a test case taken up on appeal, those residents may be subject to arrest, conviction and have their weapons confiscated and destroyed. A full criminal defense would cost $10,000 on up with no guarantee of winning the case on appeal. Until the Cook County States Attorney publicly states that under no circumstances will the new ordinance be enforced against owners of ordinary shotguns which could be loaded by more than 5 two-inch long shells, or against owners of long guns with ordinary forearms and stock, those firearm owners would be prudent to also relocate those possibly banned firearms.

There are undoubtedly some Cook County residents who, because of their honestly held beliefs, are willing to knowingly incur the risks of convictions, incarceration, and confiscation of their firearms for violating the Cook County gun ban. Those residents should refrain from engaging in activities that would bring those firearms to the knowledge of their local law enforcement officials. On some isolated occasions the Chicago police proactively sought out otherwise law abiding owners of handguns for the simple purposes of confiscation. However, the vast majority of the over 10,000 firearms that are seized by the police each year in Cook county, are seized by chance . Police seize many firearms as a result of searches of cars stopped for traffic violations, searches of homes and business as a result of responding to calls of crimes, domestic arguments, search warrants for drugs, and other ordinary police caretaking functions.

Often, police routinely ask for consent to search to satisfy their investigations. Owners of the affected firearms should be aware that they have a Constitutional right to decline to consent to a search of either their cars, homes or businesses. Owners of the affected firearms should likewise absolutely refrain from activities that would bring them into contact with the police. The mere absence of more interactions between the police and citizens have historically resulted in the majority of potential gun violations not ending up as confiscations or arrests. For instance, to date, not a single test case has been made in Cook County concerning the fanny pack exception to the state law that allows the transportation of unloaded firearms with detached loaded magazines in a case designed to transport a firearm.

The new Cook County gun ban can affect tens of thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens. This imprudent law has forced gun owners to make tough decisions that the Courts will take years to ponder. Gun owners should individually read the ordinance, and contact the 17 Cook County Commissioners. But unless and until the ordinance is repealed or struck down, owners of the affected firearms should follow the law as best they can.

Also read ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson's Report on the Cook County AWB.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; rkba
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To: Copernicus
Popular self defense weapons like the Mossberg 500 pump, and popular target shooting semiautomatic AR-15 are also illegal.... The Ordinance specifically bans any semiautomatic shotgun that has a fixed magazine with a capacity in excess of five rounds.

I just read the ordinance and I don't see how it makes the Mossberg 500 illegal. It is a pump action shotgun, not semi-automatic. I think the rifle association might want to do some talking to the shotgun association and clear up their facts before putting out a press release.

41 posted on 02/06/2007 7:58:37 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: Dosa26

You could tell me though.


42 posted on 02/06/2007 8:05:16 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Old_Mil

We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions -- and really stronger ones...

-Rudy Giuliani

I believe I have a new tagline.


43 posted on 02/06/2007 8:09:04 AM PST by Trinity5 ("We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons..." - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Dead Corpse
Because. We're "civilized" and we don't do that kind of thing. Just because they'll KILL you to enforce their unConstitutional edicts is, apparently, not enough reason to kill them first.

You're right. I can't remember where I read it, but recently I was reading an article that described Americans as being "unhealthily in love with the law". I think that is a pretty good description of most of them.

 If I hear someone in Cook County decides to open fire on the brownshirts, I'll support it.

44 posted on 02/06/2007 8:09:24 AM PST by zeugma (If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.)
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To: Cold Heart

home made by a buddy


45 posted on 02/06/2007 8:12:51 AM PST by Dosa26 (It is purpose that created us, that connects us, that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us)
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To: zeugma
People have forgotten that the Law, absent legal authority, is no law. "Shall not be infringed" is the "Supreme law of the Land" the "laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

It's a Right. If they try and take it from you, it is no different than a rapist committing sexual assault on you. And no, I'm not delving into hyperbole here. Morally, there is no difference. Since you can end up DEAD in either case, it fits without needing to artificially conflate the two scenarios.

The law is the law, but the law absent Founding Principles is an abuse of power that should be met with extreme sanction.

46 posted on 02/06/2007 8:13:54 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: facedown

Are you in Lake or in Cook?


47 posted on 02/06/2007 8:14:03 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: facedown

I couldn't resist the opportunity for a gratuitous Blues Brothers reference.


48 posted on 02/06/2007 8:18:32 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Cold Heart

they were bloody awful too. lol.


49 posted on 02/06/2007 8:22:20 AM PST by Dosa26 (It is purpose that created us, that connects us, that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us)
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To: TheRightGuy
Are you in Lake or in Cook?

Lake, but if Boy Blago has his way it'll be statewide.

50 posted on 02/06/2007 8:26:56 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Disambiguator

Turn on your speakers and click here.

51 posted on 02/06/2007 8:31:48 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Yes there were a few gunned down like the poor slob visible from above on the tower, but the majority were burned to death, incinerated, toasted, charred, cooked, roasted alive, by a caring and concerned President, and Attorney General, bowing to the media and LE frenzy of accusations regarding everything from A to Z.

Yep, right here in Constitution country, and following the toasting, the survivors, and there were not many, were forced to endure a court trial and incarceration for their beliefs.

The same country my ancestors were forced to flee at gunpoint for their very lives, and not many years later the government sent in the Army to attempt futher intimidation, forcing considerable effort to again save themselves from utter destruction.

Despite these anachronisms, we are far safer in the land of the free and home of the brave, and still endowed with inalienable rights should we choose to exercise them. Just be very careful when treading on the sensitive toes of your rich Uncle.


52 posted on 02/06/2007 8:35:12 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Trinity5

Since Giuliani has recently discovered that he is a "strict constructionalist," perhaps he can join in a lawsuit challenging this gun ban on constitutional grounds. Anyone want to lay odds on that happening?


53 posted on 02/06/2007 8:36:14 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Old_Mil

Nice post. I'll save it for posting on some of the Slobber Over RINO Rudy threads. Do you know what the "WINS Address" is?


54 posted on 02/06/2007 8:37:36 AM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Colorado Buckeye

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/97a/me970302.html

the archives of rudy...

...I'd suggest that conservatives go through there with a fine tooth comb quickly and get the necessary information because with his announcement, I wouldn't be surprised to see this electronic record of his administration disappear.

After all, a candidate like that can't afford to have the people know what he really thinks.


55 posted on 02/06/2007 8:42:12 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Old_Mil

Thanks. If Rudy is the Republican nominee, it will mark the beginning of the end of the party. For me, it will be the last straw, and I'm sure that there are millions like me out there.


56 posted on 02/06/2007 8:52:15 AM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Copernicus

Cook County should just incarcerate all the honest citizens and let the criminals run free. The place is run by criminals anyhow and things would be "business as usual"..


57 posted on 02/06/2007 8:58:53 AM PST by Gritty (Most Americans are sheep. Anyone who thinks there are no wolves is in denial.-LTC Dave Grossman)
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To: Old_Mil

The blog is working now. Thanks. The ulysses is a nice bike. How does that single front work? Does it perform as advertised?


58 posted on 02/06/2007 12:42:56 PM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Copernicus

Time to stock up on spitballs.


59 posted on 02/06/2007 1:15:19 PM PST by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: Dead Corpse
If this stands without a lot of fireworks, then they deserve to lose their ability to defend themselves.

Sorry, Fireworks are banned too . . .

60 posted on 02/06/2007 2:46:50 PM PST by Petruchio (* Censored *)
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