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Cook County Assault Weapons Ban (Bans Shotguns-like Mossberg500)
Illinois State Rifle Association ^ | February,2007 | Illinois State Rifle Association

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:22:25 AM PST by Copernicus

ANALYSIS OF COOK COUNTY ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN

Effective November 14, 2006, a Cook County gun ban Ordinance criminalizes the otherwise lawful possession of many common firearms and large capacity magazines. The law provides for imprisonment up to 6 months, fines, and confiscation and destruction of the enumerated weapons. Owners of such firearms or large capacity magazines have until February 12, 2007 to either remove the affected guns and remove any large capacity magazines from Cook County or surrender them to the police for destruction.

What firearms and magazines are affected by this county wide ban? Over 60 firearms are specifically listed as being illegal, including the deer rifle popular in many Midwest states, the SKS with a detachable magazine. Popular self defense weapons like the Mossberg 500 pump, and popular target shooting semiautomatic AR-15 are also illegal. In addition, all magazines that can hold more than 10 shells are banned.

The Ordinance specifically bans any semiautomatic shotgun that has a fixed magazine with a capacity in excess of five rounds. Since shotgun shell rounds can be obtained in sizes as short as 2 inches, the ordinance can be construed to ban all common semiautomatic shotguns.

In addition to banning over 60 enumerated firearms, the Ordinance defines certain banned firearms with catch-all definitions. One such carefully worded definition bans any semiautomatic rifle that need not have, but has the ability to accept a large capacity magazine and has,

"A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel,"

A standard dictionary definition of the word shroud is, “something that covers, screens, or guards.” The ordinance defines this “shroud” as something that allows the holding of the rifle in the off hand that would keep the shooter’s off hand from being burned. The Ordinance only excludes from this categorization a “slide,” a term usually applying to the top piece of a semiautomatic handgun. Missing from the exclusion is any verbiage about “the forearm assembly,” “fore-end,” or “stock”. An arguable interpretation of the word “shroud” as used in the Cook County Ordinance would include the standard forearm or stock that allows normal two handed shooting.

In determining the likelihood of Ordinance being interpreted to cover all standard semiautomatic rifles, we can look to the past history in Cook County. The current and prior States Attorneys of Cook County have previously interpreted criminal statutes in an unreasonable manner to justify charging otherwise law abiding citizens with gun possession crimes. These prior anti-gun interpretations have defied common sense and contradicted prior case law. Because the interpretations have been publicly stated to be the official interpretation, all Cook County Assistant States Attorneys are required to use them in determining what charges would be filed. One of the recent examples of the way Cook County prosecutors interpret the law unreasonably has been their failure to acknowledge that current state law allows the carrying of an unloaded gun in specially designed fanny packs. One would expect the Cook County States Attorney’s Office to continue their tradition of interpreting gun laws in a manner to include as many gun owners as possible, and therefore to start charging under the new Ordinance owners of semiautomatic firearms that could be held by two hands, which is for all practical purposes, all semiautomatic rifles.

For a listing of the enumerated firearms that are banned, and the exact wording of the ordinance, see the third Ordinance listed: www.cookctyclerk.com/html/111406orddoc.htm

What can gun owners do? This ordinance primarly affects Cook county residents. For firearm owners living outside Cook County, the ordinance exempts from the statute the “transportation of assault weapons or large capacity magazine if such weapons are broken down and in a non-functioning state and are not immediately accessible to any person.” Such weapons may be transported while unloaded, broken down and cased in your trunk or otherwise not immediately accessible to the occupants of the vehicle. A locked case would make the weapons not immediately accessible for the owners of station wagons and SUVs.

For Cook County residents who possess the specifically listed firearms, until there is a successful court challenge to this ordinance with a published Appellate opinion, the only prudent legal option would be to relocate the banned firearms outside the geographical boundaries of Cook County. The ordinance criminalizes possession of the banned firearms inside of Cook County, not the mere ownership of the banned weapons possessed outside of Cook County.

Cook County residents who own semi-automatic shotguns and rifles that could arguably meet the generic ordinance definition of a banned assault weapon face a dilemma of uncertainty. Until there is a test case taken up on appeal, those residents may be subject to arrest, conviction and have their weapons confiscated and destroyed. A full criminal defense would cost $10,000 on up with no guarantee of winning the case on appeal. Until the Cook County States Attorney publicly states that under no circumstances will the new ordinance be enforced against owners of ordinary shotguns which could be loaded by more than 5 two-inch long shells, or against owners of long guns with ordinary forearms and stock, those firearm owners would be prudent to also relocate those possibly banned firearms.

There are undoubtedly some Cook County residents who, because of their honestly held beliefs, are willing to knowingly incur the risks of convictions, incarceration, and confiscation of their firearms for violating the Cook County gun ban. Those residents should refrain from engaging in activities that would bring those firearms to the knowledge of their local law enforcement officials. On some isolated occasions the Chicago police proactively sought out otherwise law abiding owners of handguns for the simple purposes of confiscation. However, the vast majority of the over 10,000 firearms that are seized by the police each year in Cook county, are seized by chance . Police seize many firearms as a result of searches of cars stopped for traffic violations, searches of homes and business as a result of responding to calls of crimes, domestic arguments, search warrants for drugs, and other ordinary police caretaking functions.

Often, police routinely ask for consent to search to satisfy their investigations. Owners of the affected firearms should be aware that they have a Constitutional right to decline to consent to a search of either their cars, homes or businesses. Owners of the affected firearms should likewise absolutely refrain from activities that would bring them into contact with the police. The mere absence of more interactions between the police and citizens have historically resulted in the majority of potential gun violations not ending up as confiscations or arrests. For instance, to date, not a single test case has been made in Cook County concerning the fanny pack exception to the state law that allows the transportation of unloaded firearms with detached loaded magazines in a case designed to transport a firearm.

The new Cook County gun ban can affect tens of thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens. This imprudent law has forced gun owners to make tough decisions that the Courts will take years to ponder. Gun owners should individually read the ordinance, and contact the 17 Cook County Commissioners. But unless and until the ordinance is repealed or struck down, owners of the affected firearms should follow the law as best they can.

Also read ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson's Report on the Cook County AWB.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; rkba
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To: Old_Mil

I'll give you three guesses who I am not voting for.


21 posted on 02/06/2007 7:27:47 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Dead Corpse

Bread and circuses my friend, bread and circuses.

Keep their guts full and their minds on American Idol.

Amazing to find good citizens of the Roman Empire living in 2007.


22 posted on 02/06/2007 7:33:09 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Copernicus
Coming soon to a democRAT controlled congress ... the Brady Bunch hasn't gone away, they've just been sittin' quietly waiting.
23 posted on 02/06/2007 7:36:47 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Copernicus

"To appear soon in a neighborhood near you. Completely "under the radar" of course!"

Yes, I figure that through local ordinances are how they will get total gun bans in effect. The locals can pass any kind of law they want, constitutional or not. When every local city/town/county enacts a gun ban, then you will have a total gun ban. Which goes on to prove that all politics are local.


24 posted on 02/06/2007 7:39:32 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Dosa26
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

It's all fun and games until people start getting loaded into box cars.

25 posted on 02/06/2007 7:40:36 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: jjm2111

Heh! Nice Rockster by the way...couldn't get your blog to load though. Have a Buell Ulysses in the garage myself.


26 posted on 02/06/2007 7:41:25 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Copernicus
Owners of such firearms or large capacity magazines have until February 12, 2007 to either remove the affected guns and remove any large capacity magazines from Cook County or surrender them to the police for destruction.

So, I guess come Monday I'm going to become a criminal.

27 posted on 02/06/2007 7:42:17 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Amazing to find good citizens of the Roman Empire living in 2007.

Not really. Humans haven't changed all that much over the last couple thousand years. That people think "times are different now" only shows how much in fact they are NOT thinking at all.

28 posted on 02/06/2007 7:42:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Old_Mil

Rudi will never get my vote. If it comes down to Rudi vs. Hillary, I just won't vote.


29 posted on 02/06/2007 7:43:07 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Amazing to find good citizens of the Roman Empire living in 2007.

Not really - human nature is the same now as it was in 76AD. people laugh at the same things, have the same desires etc.

30 posted on 02/06/2007 7:44:53 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: TheRightGuy
So, I guess come Monday I'm going to become a criminal.

Yep. Sorry to hear it. What ever happens, I wish you the best of luck. Sincerely.

31 posted on 02/06/2007 7:45:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dead Corpse
It's all fun and games until people start getting loaded into box cars.

As long as people see themselves as slaves they will never be free.

32 posted on 02/06/2007 7:46:53 AM PST by Dosa26 (It is purpose that created us, that connects us, that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us)
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To: BuffaloJack

Don't do that. If it comes down to a Liberal Vs a RINO, vote third party. The only "wasted" vote is the one not cast.


33 posted on 02/06/2007 7:47:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dosa26
"Geez, I hope no one tells them about the inch and a quarter sabbotted rounds. :-/"

Lots of shotguns will hold 6- 2 3/4 shells.

The old Winchester model 1897 comes to mind. It think every single shotgun designed to shoot the 3 1/2 inch mag will hold 6.
34 posted on 02/06/2007 7:49:35 AM PST by Beagle8U (SNICKERS......Its packed with fudge !)
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To: TheRightGuy
So, I guess come Monday I'm going to become a criminal.

That sucks. Sorry to hear that. I would suggest you take appropriate precautions. I'm almost off my 3 yr probation for having a 30 rnd mag right now.

35 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:08 AM PST by Dosa26 (It is purpose that created us, that connects us, that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us)
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To: Copernicus

And of course they have the FOID cards and inventories to start their collection from.


36 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:51 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: Beagle8U

Just a bit of gallows humor. My 870 holds 9rnds of minis with an 18.5" barrel and a mag ext.


37 posted on 02/06/2007 7:55:13 AM PST by Dosa26 (It is purpose that created us, that connects us, that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us)
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To: Dead Corpse
It's all fun and games until people start getting loaded into box cars.

A couple of quotes from Winston Churchill

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!"

"If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

A lot of people today apparently don't share his viewpoint. Case in point. some years ago the local georgia gun rights group organized a pro gun rally at the state capital on a Saturday morning. We phone banked to all of our members (total about 3600 - even those who hadn't paid their dues in a couple of years) we advertised in the Marietta paper (we will never under any circumstances pay a penny to the Atlanta paper for anything) we hit the talk shows. 143 people showed up. The rest didn't want to give up about 3 hours on a Sat morning. The Atlanta Metro area has about 3,000,000 people. When Gage marched on Concord he was evetually met and sniped at by as many as 5,000 militia. The entire colonial population was about 12,000,000 at the time. The spirit of freedom is mostly gone in the USA today replaced by the spirit of gimmie and government worship.
38 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:29 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Dosa26

I'm sure it will, but I was talking about most every duck and turkey gun now being made!


39 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:54 AM PST by Beagle8U (SNICKERS......Its packed with fudge !)
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To: Centurion2000
And of course they have the FOID cards and inventories to start their collection from.

I have a FOID card, but there are no weapons traceable to it ;^)

40 posted on 02/06/2007 7:58:33 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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