LIVE THREAD: Rudy on H&C

[Howlin]

On right now...

[Peach]

Oh, sorry!

[HitmanLV]

Care to come up with a list of his votes, then?

Info given by your imaginary friends doesn't count, by the way.

[Howlin]

He is in favor of AMNESTY for illegals!!!

That is a lie.

[nopardons]

Facts, facts...some people here don't need no stinkin' facts; some don't even need to see an interview...they know everything! LOL

[pinz-n-needlez]

That's true. Much like President Bush, Rudy loves to debate, to talk about different aspects of ideas.

Hillary can't and won't discuss ideas. She can only parrot poll tested bromides.

I think that engaged brain is one thing that really fascinates me about Rudy... he isn't afraid to take a second look at things from a different point of view.

I hope that's what's happening with some of these issues. It may just be a snow job, and plenty of us will be watching carefully. But I'd for it to be sincere.

I think his ability to be tough with the Islamic terrorists will at least give us a future to tackle some of the other issues raised here tonight.

[onyx]

I read part of his post and he's for Newt and Mitt at this juncture.

I can't disgree with that.

[DKNY]

I see nothing in there that states draft evasion... did he go to Canada???? Try again!!!

[Nephi]

You think Reagan was amoral. Huh. Get ready to be spammed by his devoted followers.

Not worried. Reagan fans are much more intelligent.

[B Knotts]

There is a difference with Ronald Reagan. His radio commentaries, which he did for many years, made it very easy for anyone to understand what his basic beliefs and values were.

He did not always govern in accordance with those values (of course, it's only fair to point out that as President, he had to deal with a Democrat-controlled House), but he was, especially by the standards of the time, definitely a conservative.

[Peach]

I know it.

One would think if abortion and gun control was so darned important to the party platform that Newt would have squeezed those issues into the Contract for America.

But nope. I've read it twice and nothing about those issues. Or, as you mentioned, gay marriage.

[Hildy]

You do know that Guiliani worked for Reagan, right?

[Peach]

Well, you're the one who said that Reagan was amoral.

[Howlin]

but he was, especially by the standards of the time, definitely a conservative.

I was thinking about this today; I wonder where he would rate on the "conservative" scale today.

[Enosh]

I think they tend to be purely an executive.

Fine, not a vote then. Platform position based on historical acts perhaps? We know where Rudy is and I'm still dismayed that many conservatives are falling for the ruse.

[maxter]

What do we know about the possible new First Lady?

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>>You all make up the FR Bitter Brigade.

That means you too Jim. Right Rex? [See Post #401]

Good post Jim. I thought Rudy expressed himself about as well as any liberal could under the circumstances.

I still think Rudy lost at least 5,000,000 conservatives tonight.

[garv]

The fact that you are unable to distinguish the difference between Ronald Reagan and Rudy Giuliani calls into question not just your political acumen, but your sanity.

[al baby]

You don't go fishing very much but you and pops do alot of cathinhg gtrat HP

[Peach]

Yes, and as a conservative Reagan gave us two lousy Supreme Court judges, 4 tax increases, and amnesty. And then pushed for gun control when he got out of office and which Clinton ultimately signed.

He was a great conservative, but he wasn't perfect. None of the candidates are ever perfect. That's just life. And most of us get that.

[DocH]

he said he viewed gun rights as a matter best left for states to decide.

That's the EXACT SAME, disingenuous, duplicitous answer that crazy ol' howard dean gave when he was running for president.

What, should our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS "be left up to the states to decide" also?!!