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A declining lake level (GLOBAL WARMING AGAIN ???)
Star Newspapers - Chicago ^ | February 4, 2007 | Tony Mielcarz

Posted on 02/04/2007 1:48:43 PM PST by Chi-townChief

I believe The Star ran a great editorial with "Preserving our Great Lakes" Jan. 28.

But is it already too late for Lake Superior? I have just returned from a trip to Copper Harbor, Mich. in the Upper Peninsula and was shocked to find the largest of the Great Lakes to be more than two feet lower than before. Locals say to the best of their knowledge it has never been this low -- at least not for the past 85 years.

Where did the water go to? Many guesses but no hard facts. When we camped at Copper Harbor last August the lake was slightly down. It was down about a foot when we came back in the fall. And now, less than five months later, the largest drop. I didn't see this covered in the national news but locals say it is a great concern for Michigan and Minnesota, as well as areas of Canada.

Harbors in all of these areas will be greatly affected and many attractions could be denied to the public. Isle Royale National Park and its shallow harbor may be unavailable for research and public use; these are just my thoughts on this issue.

It is said that the recent lack of rain and snow fall did not help out the situation but also did not cause the current problem. Some also think global warming may have had a hand in this problem but it's not the main cause.

Any suggestions?

Tony Mielcarz, Park Forest


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Michigan; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: chicago; climatechange; globalwarming; neworleans; water
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Well, to start with, Chicago diverts roughly 2 billion gallons of Great Lakes water per day through the our man-made river system out to the Mississippi River which, in turn, floods towns from from St. Louis to New Orleans on its way down to the Gulf of Mexico.
1 posted on 02/04/2007 1:48:46 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

From the looks of those water eroded cliffs along the southern shoreline, I would have to say the lake level has dropped a lot more than 2 feet over the last several thousand years.


2 posted on 02/04/2007 1:51:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Chi-townChief

The Biderberger group is siphoning the water off; later the accumulated water will be released as a tsunami.


3 posted on 02/04/2007 1:53:12 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Chi-townChief

What can you do??? Show this slide to your friends and enviro whackos!


4 posted on 02/04/2007 1:53:42 PM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Chi-townChief
Locals say to the best of their knowledge it has never been this low -- at least not for the past 85 years.

There's a consensus so it must be true!
5 posted on 02/04/2007 1:56:00 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: cripplecreek
From the looks of those water eroded cliffs along the southern shoreline, I would have to say the lake level has dropped a lot more than 2 feet over the last several thousand years.

Maybe, maybe not.

It's my understanding that the land in that area is rising as it "rebounds" from the glaciers there during the last Ice Age.

6 posted on 02/04/2007 1:59:06 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Chi-townChief

There is a great animation out there on the net (which I can't locate at the moment) that shows the water levels over the last 11,000 years - the lakes are mere shadows of their former selves already.


7 posted on 02/04/2007 2:00:03 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Chi-townChief

Quick! Someone get one of those melting icebergs and put it in the Lake.


8 posted on 02/04/2007 2:00:49 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Great Lakes steamships carry about 85-90 percent of what they did in the mid 1970s. Its been that way since 1990 or so.


9 posted on 02/04/2007 2:00:58 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Morons.

The lakes are in a low cycle for the last few years, but were actually much lower in the sixties when the low historical mark was set.

That's from the US army corps of engineers.

These scaremongerers are unbelievable. It is supposed to be a high of 3° today. 3. And we might not reach it. I am watching as Lake Michigan is trying to freeze, you can see it forming and moving out from the land, it's already farther out than normal with arctic temperatures as far as the eye can see. BTW Lake Superior entirely froze over a few years back, only the fifth time in recorded history that happened. Yep, you guessed it.....global warming.....

If this keeps up, maybe we'll see articles like in the seventies when the lakes hit an all time high. Which was of course, due to.........gl;obal warming...

What a theory! Just covers all the bases.

10 posted on 02/04/2007 2:04:06 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: DuncanWaring

The Canadian shield is rising but as I understand it the lake used to be somewhat larger.


11 posted on 02/04/2007 2:04:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Found it:


12 posted on 02/04/2007 2:06:06 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Locals say to the best of their knowledge it has never been this low -- at least not for the past 85 years.

I was not aware that 2001 was 85 years ago. The average water level for the month of January this year is exactly the same as it was for the month of January in 2001. 182.98 meters.

13 posted on 02/04/2007 2:07:10 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am the Cat who Walks by Himself and all places are alike to me!)
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To: Chi-townChief

"Any suggestions?"

It's leaking. Call a plumber.


14 posted on 02/04/2007 2:09:39 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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"But is it already too late for Lake Superior? I have just returned from a trip to Copper Harbor, Mich. in the Upper Peninsula and was shocked to find the largest of the Great Lakes to be more than two feet lower than before."

Dear Tom,

The global warming experts expect the water level to rise by 4-6 feet. You have nothing to worry about.


15 posted on 02/04/2007 2:11:04 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
The average water level for the month of January this year is exactly the same as it was for the month of January in 2001. 182.98 meters.

Heh. So much for eyeballing by local yokels. The Great Lakes all fluctuate in surface levels. Lake Erie is notorious for this, and is a good deal shallower than Lake Superior. This looks like a story in search of a story on "Global Warming Sunday."

16 posted on 02/04/2007 2:12:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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I was not aware that 2001 was 85 years ago

There you go ago, letting facts get in the way of fear mongering and mindless stupidity

17 posted on 02/04/2007 2:12:25 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Sorry Tony, I called you Tom. my bad. I forgot to mention, since the global warming experts tell us that global warming will be catastrophic, I wouldn't worry too much about the 2 foot reduction in the water level.


18 posted on 02/04/2007 2:12:33 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: Chi-townChief

I thought global warming was supposed to cause lakes and oceans to rise?


19 posted on 02/04/2007 2:12:48 PM PST by crazyhorse46
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To: Chi-townChief

Since Mars is also heating up, should not it now be called "Planetary Warming"


20 posted on 02/04/2007 2:13:31 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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