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The Conservative Case for Duncan Hunter
TownHall.com ^ | 2/2/07 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/02/2007 10:39:18 AM PST by Antoninus

If you're looking for someone who can represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party in 2008, California Congressman Duncan Hunter fills that bill far better that any of the top contenders who have already gotten into the race. Here's a short, but sweet primer that may help explain why that's the case.

In this Oct. 30, 2006, file photo, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., speaks at a news conference. Hunter, best known for his advocacy on behalf of the military, launched a longshot bid for the presidency Thursday in South Carolina. (AP Photo/Denis Poroy)

He Is The "National Security Candidate."

If you're looking for a candidate with credibility on national security issues, Duncan Hunter is your guy. Hunter is a hawkish, former Vietnam veteran who "served in the 173rd Airborne and 75th Army Rangers" and earned a Bronze Star. His son also served two tours in Iraq as a Marine, so we're talking about a guy who has had "skin in the game" over in Mesopotamia. Additionally, Hunter served on the House Armed Services Committee and rose to the rank of Chairman before the Democrat takeover in 2006.

So, when it comes to foreign policy issues like Iraq, we're talking about a candidate who oozes credibility. But, has he done an about face on Iraq now that the polls are against it? No, he strongly supports the surge and he had this to say about how he views the war in Iraq when I interviewed him back in December:

"Well, the U.S. is following in the same basic pattern that we've followed for 60 years in expanding freedom around the world. (The first step is) that we stand up a free government and we've done that in Iraq.

The second step is we stand up a military capable of protecting that government and the third step is the U.S. leaves. We followed that pattern in Japan and the Philippines and Salvadore and our own hemisphere and it's been the traditional and the effective method of this country spreading freedom around the world."

In my opinion, that's probably a better, simple explanation of what we're doing than George Bush has given in the last couple of years.

Good Fences Make Good Neighbors

Duncan Hunter has been one of the Republican House leaders in the fight against illegal immigration. Not only is Hunter the primary mover and shaker behind the San Diego border fence, he "wrote the Secure Fence Act" which George Bush signed into law in late October of last year.

Yet, Hunter has managed to avoid some of the harsh rhetoric that sometimes gets other tough-on-illegal-immigration pols in trouble. For example, in our interview last year, Hunter emphasized how important it is to get a fence up in order to prevent illegal immigrants from being killed as they cross the border:

"The first piece is that the major part of the fence is to be built between Calexico, California and Douglas, Arizona and that portion, that's 392 miles, that's the area through which most of the people come who have died of dehydration or sunstroke in the desert sun in the summer months.

So one provision that we put in there is that we have to have at least interlocking cameras...before the hot season, so there's a humanitarian dimension to this and that's something that's been missed by many of the liberals."

His Trade Position May Be a "Bug" To Republicans, But It Can Be A "Feature" To Democrats

There is one area in particular where Duncan Hunter departs from the conservative orthodoxy and that's on trade issues. He's neither a fan of free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA, nor does he think we're getting a square deal on trade from China.

Although many Republicans will disagree with Hunter on this issue, many Democrats find themselves nodding their heads in agreement with what he has to say. In important electoral-vote-rich states like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, Hunter's message will resonate with working class Democrats who might not otherwise vote Republican. That could be the crucial factor that swings an election in our favor in 2008.

All This And He's Socially Conservative, Too

There have been a lot of complaints that the two front-runners for the GOP nomination, John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, have little to offer to social conservatives who are going to have to turn out in 2008 if the GOP has a chance to win.

On the other hand, Duncan Hunter is opposed to gay marriage, staunchly anti-abortion, and should have no problem appealing to conservative Christians. As a matter of fact, Hunter has even introduced the, "Right to Life Act (which) specifically acknowledges the personhood of the unborn." Hunter says that bill, if passed, "would allow us to have a reversal of the effects of Roe v. Wade without a constitutional amendment."

He Has Lots Of Mileage, But No Heavy Baggage

One of the things that's becoming apparent about the top contenders in the race for the Republican nomination is that all of them have some extremely heavy baggage. We've got divorces, adulterers galore, candidates whom much of the party won't support for one reason or another, a candidate who will be 72 in 2008, and another one, who, unfortunately, may lose a considerable amount of support because of his religious beliefs. Now, Hunter? He has been married once, has no significant scandals to live down, and there don't appear to be any other major minuses that will cost him a few percentage points at election time. Could he have some scandal in his closet that we know nothing about? Maybe, but that's the case with any politician. At the moment, he looks very good on this front compared to the top contenders.

Furthermore, Duncan Hunter was first elected to Congress back in 1980. In a post 9/11 world, a Vietnam vet with 25+ years of experience in government makes a nice contrast to the trio of lightweights who are fighting for the Democrat nomination (Obama, 2 years in the Senate, Edwards, 6 years in the Senate, and Clinton, 6 years in the Senate). If there were another 9/11, with whom would you feel more comfortable in the Oval Office, John Edwards, who'd probably curl up in the fetal position under his desk, or a guy like Duncan Hunter, who has been around the block a few times?

To Know Him Is To Love Him, Or At Least To Like Him Better Than McCain

When you're taking a look at a 2nd tier candidate like Duncan Hunter, who has minimal name recognition at the national level, the first thing most people will think is, "Good, bad, it doesn't matter if he can't capture the nomination." That's a fair point. But, there have been a couple of indications that Hunter has what it takes to catch on.

The first was a mid-January "straw poll of Republican precinct committeemen" in Maricopa County, Arizona. Hunter took first place. He also did surprisingly well, given his lack of name recognition, in a poll of right-of-center bloggers. In that poll, Hunter drew the fourth highest level of support and when the level of opposition to each candidate was subtracted from that person’s support, Hunter actually came in second place.

Notice that in both cases, you have two groups of extremely well informed, conservative participants, that are probably several months ahead of the general public in knowledge about the candidates and in both cases, Hunter did very well. That's a strong indication that if Hunter can get his name out there, he can compete with the top tier candidates in the race.

Conclusion:

Granted, it's a little too early to endorse any candidate, Duncan Hunter included. After all, we don't know all the candidates that will be running yet and they haven't even had the first debate.

Moreover, there are a lot of different positions that many of the candidates have yet to take a stance on one way or the other. For example, there are 2nd Amendment issues. Hunter is "near perfect" there. A Balanced Budget Amendment? He supports it. What sort of judges would candidates appoint to the bench? Hunter would prefer someone like Scalia. Pardoning Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean? Hunter thinks that is the right thing to do. School vouchers, the missile defense shield, a 2/3 majority in Congress to raise taxes? Hunter is in favor of all of them.

Does that mean other candidates won't end up taking those same positions? No. Does it mean Hunter is perfect? No. But, when you compare Duncan Hunter to everyone else in the race right now, he looks very appealing. In the end, maybe that won't matter because Hunter won't get any traction, but I, for one, hope that conservatives will take a good, long look at Hunter before they make a decision on which candidate to support in 2008.

Mr. Hawkins is a professional blogger who runs Right Wing news and Conservative Grapevine, both of which are conservative blogs. He also writes a weekly column for Townhall.com. You can e-mail him at johnhawkins -at- rightwingnews.com


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; duncanhunter; election2008; electionpresident; illegalimmigration; president; wot
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To: GulfBreeze

Yah, whatever.

I don't even support Giuliani.


301 posted on 02/03/2007 11:32:14 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: sitetest
I said (clearly) that I did not consider Hunter "unelectable."

All I tried to illustrate was that historical precedent shows the odds against him are pretty steep.

Hunter's a good man (IMO), we will see how he does.

Whenever somebody says "this time it's different," history shows it usually isn't.

I'm sorry if you take it personally.

302 posted on 02/03/2007 12:46:26 PM PST by wireman
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To: wireman

Dear wireman,

"I said (clearly) that I did not consider Hunter 'unelectable.'"

Yes, and that's why I qualified what I said:

"But that's a far way from saying that US Representatives are unelectable, or even to say that they are NEARLY SO." [emphasis added]

Which, I think, is justified from what you say even in this last post:

"All I tried to illustrate was that historical precedent shows the odds against him are pretty steep."

My point, however, is that "historical precedents" may not mean as much as folks think they do when the number of data points is relatively small.

That's why I provided examples of attributes of other leading Republican candidates (and one leading Democrat candidate) that would seem to indicate that historical precedents militate against their election, as well.

"Whenever somebody says 'this time it's different,' history shows it usually isn't."

I disagree. I think it's different in critical ways pretty much every time.

The 2008 presidential election may be an excellent example of this. It is quite likely that someone who is either:

- a former big city mayor with no other experience holding elected office

or

- a sitting US Senator

or

- a one-term governor with no other experience holding elected office

or

- a sitting US Representative

will be elected president.

If any of these happen, it will be different this time.

"I'm sorry if you take it personally."

Gee, I don't think there's anything to suggest that I took it personally. I just disagree with you strongly, and made my case.


sitetest


303 posted on 02/03/2007 3:06:10 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: taxed2death
"he's anti-free trade"

Is he? Or is he for fair trade?

Milton Friedman said, "If you put equality above freedom , you'll get neither. If you put freedom above equality, you'll get a great deal of both."

Fair trade militates against free trade the way mandated quotas stifle freedom and productivity.

304 posted on 02/03/2007 5:19:12 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: tfelice
I think the average American is tired of the same old hacks

Yah, so they'll certainly turn to someone who's spent most of his adult life in Congress, non-stop since 1980...

305 posted on 02/03/2007 5:20:35 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: kaotic133
...I'd guess you learned about government in church.

That' a good place to learn about government. You should try it sometime. Better than a lot of socialist-indoctrination colleges these days.

306 posted on 02/03/2007 5:25:51 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Antoninus
During the primaries...the party-over-principles crowd thinks we're stupid. Are we?

No, especially in this upcoming election. If we nominate the right man in the primaries, especially a clear conservative, I believe we'll walk away with the election, whether it's against Hillary or whoever else the Out-Of-Touch Socialist DEMOniCRAT Party puts up there. I think a large majority of Americans will vote against liberalism when the opponent is a clear conservative.

307 posted on 02/03/2007 6:00:39 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: zbigreddogz
Nominee Hunter = President Hillary.

Nominee Hillary=President Any-Half-Wit-Conservative Republican

Even the liberals wince at her. The general public will reject her.

308 posted on 02/03/2007 6:07:21 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Antoninus

Back to his buddy Al Franken...


309 posted on 02/03/2007 6:15:09 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: texastoo
The status quo of the Republican party needs to head for the nursing home. We all saw who is who at the Ford funeral. The good ol boys club. No doubt Duncan Hunter is older but he doewsn't have the stench of the good ol boys club.

Sounds like Duncan is just what we need to win in 2008.

310 posted on 02/03/2007 6:20:40 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Antoninus
has this guy voted "FOR" or "AGAINST" the spending bills that have been signed into law in the past 6 years or so?

Has he voted "FOR" or "AGAINST" legislation that was passed in knee-jerk fashion that targets Americans for scrutiny (like many parts of the "patriot act") rather than foreign invaders?
311 posted on 02/03/2007 6:21:08 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: zbigreddogz

Yes you do.


312 posted on 02/03/2007 7:18:25 PM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: Jim 0216

I agree fully!! But, if we get a wimpy "new tone" gutless Republican ashamed of being called a conservative,,, terrified of being called "hateful" "homophobic" "racist" or any other name,, anxious to show the public he/she can "get along",,,, then it's over. It's hello Shrillary!


313 posted on 02/03/2007 7:24:17 PM PST by freemike
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To: zbigreddogz
Nominee Hunter = President Hillary

My thoughts exactly.

314 posted on 02/03/2007 7:27:08 PM PST by gonewt
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To: GulfBreeze

No, I actually don't. Although I could see myself changing my mind depending on the circumstances, right now, I support Romney.


315 posted on 02/03/2007 11:47:26 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Jim 0216
.....so Reagan was wrong for putting tariffs on japbikes and thus saving Harley Davidson?
316 posted on 02/04/2007 5:03:58 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Jim 0216

You'd be surprised how opposite from either of those college can be if you come south and enroll in economics and politics. And you probably wouldn't like my ideas if I payed attention in religious school either, it was Catholic. They kind of learned their lessons on theocracy the hard way.


317 posted on 02/04/2007 6:55:48 AM PST by kaotic133
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To: zbigreddogz
Whatever, you can be an 'athletic supporter' for all I care. Anyone who without any better reason would go out of his way to antagonize the very slice that is going to be needed to push any top tier candidate over the top later is nothing but freaking idiot troll. (BTW - Romney is not a top tier, has never been a top tier, peaked at 14%fluff support and has been on the decline every since).

I pop off and get irritated and start blasting at times so I guess that makes me a freakin idiot too. The fact is we all need to get back to the "harm no Republican" 11th commandment of Ronald Reagan.

That goes for he Duncan Hunter supporters doubly IMHO. I think conservatives/Republicans who think Hillary would be better for us short term or long term than Giuliani are acting like spoiled idiots too.

Ronald Reagan said a rising tide lifts all ships (and I know he was quoting someone else). Conservatives/Christians need to open their eyes and realize that whatever hope of making an affect on the political landscape God has given us, he has given it to us in the good ol' GOP.

(Our hope is built on nothing less, than Jesus Christ and his Righteousness, - yea I know I know).

I also know God commanded Shadrack, Mishak and Abednego to serve under one of the most corrupt Kings in history. I also know that God made Danial an ADVISOR to this King as he grew in power and corruption.

Whatever... I am sure this looks like a bunch of religious rambling to you so why don't you just laugh it off and go see if you can't piss off another whole section of the base? At least once EVERYONE'S thoroughly pissed off we can realize our differences and commonalities.
318 posted on 02/04/2007 7:03:10 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: taxed2death
.....so Reagan was wrong for putting tariffs on japbikes and thus saving Harley Davidson?

Yes I think so. Legitimate costs of doing business domestically and overseas are valid. But when tariffs are created to curtail competition in the free marketplace, the consumer alway loses. In the free market, you and I get to choose which products we think are worthy of consumption so we are served by free-market competition - the best quality product for the best price and all companies, domestic and foreign, are forced to do a better job to compete. The winner is the consumer.

319 posted on 02/04/2007 9:50:09 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
"The winner is the consumer."

How can you state your position if the winner is the consumer...if Reagan did not temporarily put a tariff on jap bikes...and let HD go belly up.
How would that benefit the consumer? Do you know how many motorcycles HD has sold worldwide since Reagan LIFTED his short term tariff on motorcycles over 750cc?

What detrimental effect did that short term tariff have on the consumer? You would not be able to go out and buy a brand new HD today if Reagan let that company go "unprotected".
320 posted on 02/04/2007 11:16:02 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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