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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: 8mmMauser
>> That could well be all her fault in his eyes. Maybe he said, "See, look what you made me do."

I don't think that's a "maybe." It is the classic self-justification of a sociopath. When Michael finally did succeed in "punishing" her, he put "I kept my promise" on her memorial.

41 posted on 02/02/2007 7:08:57 AM PST by T'wit (In the absence of market prices, all factors of production, including people, go to waste.)
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Memo to visitors: It is a new month and time to ask once more the most important question in the Terri Schiavo story. Namely, how did Terri, a young, healthy woman asleep in bed one Saturday night, suddenly end up on a hallway floor, face down, unconscious, unresponsive, in cardiopulmonary arrest, making gurgling noises, and suffering from numerous traumatic internal injuries -- how did she suffer those injuries right after Michael Schiavo came home late from work?

We have some facts and clues to consider.

1) Nobody else was present

2) The coroner ruled out the "bulimia" story that Michael had used as an alibi. Now he has no alibi.

3) Michael is known to have lied to the police who came to investigate, and has given different, inconsistent accounts of what happened.

4) The hospital could not find any natural cause for Terri's condition or injuries.

5) Terri suffered internal injuries that were comparable to being in a bad auto wreck -- except she wasn't in one.

6) Terri and Michael were known to have been fighting heatedly all that day.

7) Terri's blood tests showed at least two highly abnormal results associated with being assaulted.

8) Statistically, domestic violence, by husbands and boy friends, is the #1 cause of death and injury to young women.

Do we have any answers to this mystery?

42 posted on 02/02/2007 7:28:34 AM PST by T'wit (In the absence of market prices, all factors of production, including people, go to waste.)
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To: T'wit

And let's not forget the most important FACT:

Had Terri received rehabilitation as the court ordered, it is entirely possible that she would have recovered and been able to clear all of this up. Of course, if there was "foul play" involved, the perpetrator would not have wanted her to recover and may have even taken other steps (i.e. starvation and dehydration) to prevent her from ever recovering.


43 posted on 02/02/2007 7:46:49 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: T'wit
The case was based on privacy rights,

Well, there you go. The Shiavo case is over. OJ's case is over. Move on.

44 posted on 02/02/2007 7:54:32 AM PST by zarf
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To: 8mmMauser

Shooting a healthy person in the back of the head to harvest his or her organs (Chinese standard operating procedure) is not euthanasia.


45 posted on 02/02/2007 9:06:42 AM PST by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar; wagglebee; BykrBayb; bjs1779; T'wit
I see your point. It doesn't fit the definition very well unless the victims are considered unhealthy because of their beliefs.

(But I bet they are...).

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Euthanasia, Greek for "good death," refers to the termination of the life of a person suffering from a painful and incurable medical condition. Also known as "mercy killing," euthanasia is distinguished from suicide by the necessary participation of a third party, typically either a physician or family member.

But something can be said for the Chinese method.

It is a whole lot more merciful and painless than the usual killings here and abroad we call euthanasia, such as dehydration.

Here, for spare parts, we declare the "donors" "brain dead" and let the harvest begin.

46 posted on 02/02/2007 9:31:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: zarf
>> The Shiavo case is over.

S-c-h-i-a-v-o.

The Greer Court is what's over. The legal case is still open, the medical examiner's report is still open and the Court of History is just now convened, and is likely to investigate and discuss the case for hundreds of years. You may move on if you wish, or if you'd like to discuss the case, why don't you start by giving me a factual answer to my question in #42?

47 posted on 02/02/2007 9:35:39 AM PST by T'wit (In the absence of market prices, all factors of production, including people, go to waste.)
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To: T'wit

Still no answer? How could anyone support Mikey without having the answer to this simple question?


48 posted on 02/02/2007 11:43:08 AM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: 8mmMauser
The march toward forced euthanasia continues unabated. The killing of Terri Schiavo Schindler escalated the decline of medical standards.

Act 169. Enacted by Senate (SB 628 ) Nov 19, 2006. Signed by Gov. Rendell the next day.

This allows for the killing of incapcitated individuals without their consent.

49 posted on 02/02/2007 12:06:59 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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Terri Schiavo Blogs

50 posted on 02/02/2007 12:09:34 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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“We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.”

51 posted on 02/02/2007 12:16:38 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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>> How could anyone support Mikey without having the answer to this simple question?

They only way they can support Michael is by ducking the question. I've asked the question scores of times but no one has ever ventured a serious answer, much less one that attempts to face all of the medical facts.

The silence tells its own story.

52 posted on 02/02/2007 2:14:28 PM PST by T'wit (In the absence of market prices, all factors of production, including people, go to waste.)
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To: T'wit
I've asked the question scores of times but no one has ever ventured a serious answer, much less one that attempts to face all of the medical facts.

I think it was "ice tea" t'wit, right about the time that Michael got home that night.

53 posted on 02/02/2007 5:37:53 PM PST by bjs1779
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>> I think it was "ice tea" t'wit, right about the time that Michael got home that night.

I suppose if he pinned her down and made her drink two or three gallons of iced tea....... No. The theory doesn't work. That much tea would have made her as round and bouncy as a beach ball. When Michael goes to put her on her stomach, she bounces out the front door and they find her in the parking lot.

54 posted on 02/02/2007 6:29:07 PM PST by T'wit (In the absence of market prices, all factors of production, including people, go to waste.)
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>> What was the most likely scenario for that fateful night?

Well, the #1 cause of death and injury to young women is domestic violence. (Subcategory: The #1 cause of death for young pregnant women is murder.) We can rule out #2, automobile accidents. We can rule out diseases. We can rule out suicide or an accidental overdose. We can rule out burns. We can rule out work-related accidents. We can rule out poison and gas. We can rule out poisonous insects or snakes. We can rule out sharks. We can rule out space aliens with ray guns.

We can rule out bulimia, too, but it hardly seems necessary. Nobody even mentions bulimia in morbidity statistics.

She was home sleeping, for crying out loud. One minute she's healthy and asleep, then her husband comes home and THUD, she's on a hallway floor, practically dead.

55 posted on 02/02/2007 7:24:38 PM PST by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Soulmates and brothers in the craft....

Plenty of sympathy for the poor killers, not much for the victims. Thread by wagglebee.

Lansing, MI (LifeNews.com) -- Much of the country may have forgotten about assisted suicide crusader Jack Kevorkian, but Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm insists she hasn't forgotten about him. Granholm's office said Thursday she is still weighing a request from Kevorkian's lawyer to release him from prison before his scheduled parole in June.

Kevorkian is 78 and reportedly suffers from a number of health ailments, including diabetes, hepatitis C, vertigo, high blood pressure and hardening of the arteries.

Jack Kevorkian Prison Release Still Under Governor's Consideration

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56 posted on 02/03/2007 3:23:38 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Here is a thread by Clintonfatigued on the spread of the euthanasia crafts in Switzerland. Thanks, wagglebee

A ruling by Switzerland's highest court released Friday has opened up the possibility that people with serious mental illnesses could be helped by doctors to take their own lives.

Switzerland already allows physician-assisted suicide for terminally ill patients under certain circumstances. The Federal Tribunal's decision puts mental illnesses on the same level as physical ones.

Swiss may expand assisted suicide law (slippery slope alert)

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57 posted on 02/03/2007 3:29:59 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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This could have affected us personally. But anyone in that situation has to fight against a huge tide of negatives anyway. Thread by wagglebee.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-life group is worried that a bill intended to protect the disabled may leave out disabled unborn children who could become victims of abortion simply because of their disabilities.

On Wednesday, a Senate committee approved the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act (S. 358). The measure would prevent health insurance companies and employers from discriminating against people who test "positive" for a genetic disease.

Congressional Bill May Discriminate Against Disabled Unborn Babies

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58 posted on 02/03/2007 3:36:44 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Just to keep in perspective, especially for new visitors to the topic, who may wonder why we persevere, here is a powerful reminder. Scott Thomas was rescued from the executioner's axe and the same machine that killed Terri Schiavo and countless others who remained under the radar.

Visitors can read the story on their website and those of us familiar with his plight can see new pictures of Scott as he recovers from the attempted doom. The antidote to evil attempts is apparent in the love from his family.

Scott's News

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59 posted on 02/03/2007 3:48:48 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Kevorkian is 78 and reportedly suffers from a number of health ailments, including diabetes, hepatitis C, vertigo, high blood pressure and hardening of the arteries.

What he's really suffering from is a missing soul. I pray he finds it soon. His maladies won't give him many years.

60 posted on 02/03/2007 5:29:25 AM PST by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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