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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

I don't know about anyone else, but I am still waiting for Michael Schiavo to make a correction on his blog about what "actually" took place in Colorado when he went there (to the debate) to supposedly ask Congresswoman Musgrave one question and she and her staff supposedly tried to have him removed. He called it, "My unreal night in Colorado - with radio link" (Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 08:05:14 PM PST). I'll say (from what I read) that it was his "unreal night".

As I said before in "Standing up and Admitting a Mistake: Not Schiavo's Style?",  if four uniformed officers were around my seat, I would have some idea of what was going on. I certainly wouldn't be sitting in "duh mode" to only be told later of what took place right there around me, as Michael suggests he was. If Michael's account is realistic -- his response and reaction is not. Nor is his response appropriate now that he has "learned" what he was "allegedly told" is not what took place. One would think if he can't get the words out that he was mistaken, he could at least have removed the inaccurate entry from his blog.

He has done neither.

I'm also still waiting to read about, "Also, maybe tomorrow I'll post about my election-eve rally with Bill Clinton in Florida." (A real election impact by Michael Schiavo, Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:34 AM PST).  Indeed, I would love to read that story by Michael, since I read it was not possible. Not if he was implying it was the Bill Clinton that is the former President of the United States. Will be interesting to see what he says about that if he ever does.

If Michael couldn't get it straight what happened at the Musgrave debate or even if he spent election-eve with former President Bill Clinton -- do you suppose he might have gotten Terri Schiavo's wishes mixed-up as well? (He does claim to have a bad memory from what I read.) Makes one wonder. At least makes me wonder. Whatever...

I'm still waiting for the corrections if not the explanations!

 

Carrie Hutchens is a former law enforcement officer and a freelance writer who is active in fighting against the death culture movement and the injustices within the judicial and law enforcement systems.


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To: 8mmMauser
>> Museum of Abortion and Contraception Makes Debut in Austria

Makes sense to me. We could have a "Dr. Mengele Experiments on Children" museum. We could have a "Chemistry for the Final Solution" museum dedicated to Zyklon-B and the gas chambers. We could turn Auschwitz-Birkenau into condos. Very chic!

921 posted on 03/21/2007 5:02:00 AM PDT by T'wit (Socialism makes everyone's income everybody else's business and thereby turns us all into busybodies)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ...Terri Schiavo, who died in Florida after a bitter court fight two years ago..."

Who was murdered two years ago.

922 posted on 03/21/2007 5:05:16 AM PDT by T'wit (Socialism makes everyone's income everybody else's business and thereby turns us all into busybodies)
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To: 8mmMauser

Yes, of course, liberals always hunt in packs. They also prefer sneak attacks, from behind, and go running to daddy if anyone hits back. These are among the qualities that make me pronounce them bratty, devious, evil-minded little girls regardless of their age or sex.


923 posted on 03/21/2007 5:12:31 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser

From the press, I unconsciously expected Heidi Law to be a girlish nurse-trainee. One of our visitors called her a "candy-striper." She is nothing of the sort! She's a grown woman, competent, experienced in nursing and very persuasive in her recollections (like Carla Sauer Iyers). Heidi Law is a CNA, which was the level of duty nurse at that facility. What she said was backed up by another duty nurse, "Olga."


924 posted on 03/21/2007 5:20:31 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
From article: If monsters like Ted Bundy or Scott Peterson are afforded this right after their cases have gone through the state court system, why shouldn't an innocent disabled woman be given that same chance before she is cruelly starved and dehydrated to death? Congress was not only justified in getting involved, I believe it was their duty.


925 posted on 03/21/2007 6:29:08 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: All; EternalVigilance
Eternal Vigilance has opened a thread on what Bobby Schindler said in World Net Daily today. Post #911 above and his thread here:

Politicians still wrong on Terri's case [her brother addresses Romney's recent comments]

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926 posted on 03/21/2007 2:51:02 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
The above link and the one below are hot issues, it seems, remarkable as it has been two years since the terrible event. Terri's Legacy proves durable. But it still attracts considerable numbers of resident trolls and detractors who are as agitated as ever and as full of ill will as before. In this case the thread is supposed to be about Mitt Romney's stance, but has evolved into detractors against Terri.

So, I post my warning sign.

Mitt Romney's Comments on Terri Schiavo Could Sink His Candidacy

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927 posted on 03/21/2007 2:56:53 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
This appeared in News Max two years ago today...

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Two additional nurses have filed affidavits in the Terri Schiavo case that corroborate bombshell allegations by nurse Carla Sauer Iyer, who went public on Tuesday with claims that Michael Schiavo had deliberately withheld treatment from his disabled wife.

Heidi Law was a certified nursing assistant at the Palm Garden Convalescent Center in Largo, Fla., where she treated Mrs. Schiavo in 1997.

In an affidavit filed with the court in August 2003, Ms. Law maintained:

"I know that Terri did not receive routine physical therapy or any other kind of therapy. I was personally aware of orders for rehabilitation that were not being carried out. Even though they were ordered, Michael would stop them."

Law continued:

"Michael ordered that Terri receive no rehabilitation or range of motion therapy. I and [another CNA] would give Terri range of motion anyway, but we knew we were endangering our jobs by doing so.

"We usually did this behind closed doors," Law said, because "we were so fearful of being caught ... we were always looking out for Michael, because we knew that, not only would Michael take his anger out on us, but he would take it out more on Terri. We spoke of this many times."

"At least three times during any shift where I took care of Terri, I made sure to give Terri a wet washcloth filled with ice chips, to keep her mouth moistened.

"On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely. I did not do it more often only because I was so afraid of being caught by Michael."

Like nurse Iyer, Law suspected that Michael was mistreating Terri, noting in her sworn statement:

"Several times when Michael visited Terri during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. This worried me because I didn’t trust Michael.

"When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists and sometimes had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy. ...

"We were convinced that he was abusing her, and probably saying cruel, terrible things to her because she would be so upset when he left."

"The Palm Gardens staff, myself included, were just amazed that a 'Do Not Resuscitate' order had been put on Terri’s chart, considering her age and her obvious cognitive awareness of her surroundings."

Carolyn Johnson, a certified nursing assistant who worked at the Sabal Palms nursing home in Largo, said Terri's mistreatment went back to at least 1993.

"During this assignment I took care of Terri Schiavo several times," Johnson said in her own August 2003 affidavit.

"I learned, as part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri. This surprised me, as I did not think a guardian could go against a doctor's orders like that, but I was assured that a guardian could and that this guardian had gone against Terri's doctor's orders."

Johnson recalled: "No one was allowed to just go in and see Terri. Michael had a visitors list. We all knew that we would lose our jobs if we did not do exactly what Michael said to do."

Johnson continued:

"I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire time I worked at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri was not to be given any kind of rehabilitative help, per his instructions.

"Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted to do this," Johnson said, "as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of rehabilitation."

Second, Third Nurse Accuse Michael Schiavo

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928 posted on 03/22/2007 3:09:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Do we all remember Mike Farrell weeping over that guy in California who was given ultimate justice and brought to room temperature? He was on tv and elsewhere, looking really elite as he drooled appropriate wine onto his silk ascot and tears dripped into his brie. How far he has come since M.A.S.H.! These days one can hardly find a setting elite enough for him to grace.

Well, now he is doing a film on Terri. Since he was so weepy over the pain suffered by miserable cold blooded killers, one can imagine how much more huge compassion he must have felt when Mikey and the State dispatched Terri.

Maybe I will offer a prize to the first one who guesses correctly whether he sided with compassion towards Terri or towards some other victim.

Rather than keep all in suspense, I will just leak it all out and surprise all.

Farrell cites his struggle making the 'Patch' movie intelligent and meaningful. More recently, he has been trying to produce the Terry Schiavo story.

"We have the rights to the story as told from the point of view of her husband, Mike,' he says. 'It is a story of real love and the tragedy of an individual who was caught in the crosshairs of the American political and religious right. This is a story that just has to be told, but every place we went they were scared to death. 'No, not for us,' they said. We have been literally out there for a year trying to peddle the story."

Conscience Drives Actor/Activist Mike Farrell

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929 posted on 03/22/2007 3:20:54 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife; wagglebee
Texas Futile Care may spread to China. The death dealers march on...

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Two years ago in the United States, Terri Schiavo—a brain-damaged woman in a persistent vegetative state—made headlines with her famous euthanasia case. Her husband and her parents were battling over whether she should be unhooked from her machines so she could die peacefully.

Now the debate over euthanasia is raging on the opposite side of the planet, in China. 

Typing with a chopstick held in her mouth, 28-year-old Li Yan has been writing a blog called "Nowhere to go" that calls for China to enact legislation on euthanasia, or "peaceful death." Li Yan has suffered from terminal cancer since she was a baby. She can only move her head slightly, along with several fingers. Her mother must feed her, take her to the toilet, and turn her a dozen times during the night.

"I treasure life, but I don't want to live," she writes.

Schiavo and Li are unusual cases, but controversy over when to pull the plug is bound to grow more common as the world population ages. My hunch? Euthanasia will become more accepted as terminal illness hits closer to home for more people.

And although it's repugnant to make human life a matter of money, crippling financial costs will be an unspoken factor that makes euthanasia more accepted. When U.S. President George W. Bush was governor of Texas, he signed the Texas Futile Care Law. It allows hospitals to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if the patient is so sick that all care is, well, futile. Families get a 10-day notice before the plug is pulled. While the Schiavo debate raged, a Texas baby was unplugged against his mother's wishes.

As the world grays and financial resources remain finite, some tough decisions will have to be made. So let the worldwide debates continue.

China's Terri Schiavo

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930 posted on 03/22/2007 3:27:24 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee; Lesforlife
Speaking of Texas Futile Caregiving, the license to kill still works fine. We remember Andrea Clark as the first victim to catch out attention. Wagglebee has a thread on what has been happening to Emilio.

AUSTIN, TX, March 21, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A hospital ethics committee at Brackenridge Children’s Hospital of Austin, TX, a Catholic run hospital in the Seton Healthcare System, yesterday notified Catarina Gonzales, a young mother of a very sick child that, unless she can arrange to have her child transferred to another medical facility within 10 days, they will remove the respirator that the child relies on to breath.

Mother Given 10 Days to Find New Hospital For Sick Child or Hospital Will Remove Respirator

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931 posted on 03/22/2007 3:34:55 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee has a thread on the organ parts industry.

Maybe death occurs when the pained screaming stops.

WASHINGTON, D.C., March 21, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Organ harvesting from patients before brain-death has been declared is a rapidly increasing trend in U. S. hospitals, the Washington Post reported March 18, alarming doctors and ethicists about the dubious ethics behind the practice.

Instead of waiting until brain function ceases and the patient is declared "brain-dead" by medical officials (itself a questionable practice since there is no universally-accepted definition of brain-death) surgeons have begun following an approach known as "donation after cardiac death." Organs are harvested once the heart has stopped beating and several minutes have passed without the heart spontaneously re-starting.

"The person is not dead yet," said Jerry A. Menikoff, an associate professor of law, ethics and medicine at the University of Kansas. "They are going to be dead, but we should be honest and say that we're starting to remove the organs a few minutes before they meet the legal definition of death."

Organ Harvesting Before "Brain-Death" Increasingly Common, Concerned Doctors Warn

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932 posted on 03/22/2007 3:51:12 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Some, especially trolls and detractors, harp on the Media reporting of Terri's demise as if there were no bias. Some have even said on related threads that we baited the Media and it was slanted towards us. Here is what was reported two years ago today.

This is but an extract from that remarkable story:

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  • Rejecting the Schindlers’ Case: Three-fifths (60%) of soundbites (including reporter comments) presented Michael Schiavo’s case that Terry Schiavo should die, compared with just two-fifths offering the counter-arguments of her parents. Not a single story was devoted to a skeptical look at Schiavo and whether he was acting in his wife’s best interests, but all three networks ran stories rejecting Mr. and Mrs. Schindler’s view that their daughter could possibly be helped.

    On Friday, a few hours after Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube was removed, ABC’s Peter Jennings dismissed one of the Schindlers’ worries: “They also say that she will die a painful death, though there does not seem to be any support for that argument in the medical community.” On Monday’s World News Tonight, reporter Jake Tapper rejected the value of videotapes showing Terri Schiavo apparently responding: “In some ways, these tapes are like psychological inkblot tests. You see in them what you want.” Then ABC’s Dr. Tim Johnson summarized that “the conventional wisdom, by experts in this field, is that after five years in a persistent vegetative state, there is virtually no chance for recovery.” NBC showed Dr. Robert Cranford, who has examined Mrs. Schiavo. He said that in spite of how she appears on videotape, “she’s as unconscious as someone who is dead.”

ABC, CBS and NBC Evening News Coverage Favors Those Who Would Stop Feeding Disabled Woman... Slanting the News Against Terri Schiavo

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933 posted on 03/22/2007 4:02:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: PhilDragoo
>> Fifteen years after the initial "collapse" the potassium farce is finally discounted.

They should have listened to Free Republic. We poked it full of holes years ago. However, Dr. Thogmartin made it official. His findings showed that the malpractice lawsuits were a criminal fraud all along. The trial lawyer who invented the theory (Gary Fox) may not have known this, but Michael most certainly did. He also had, and withheld from the court, written and scientific evidence that prima facie exonerated the doctors -- the bone scan. Then after the judgment in his favor, Michael again acted as a "fraud on the court" by denying Terri the therapy that the jury award was for. (If she died, he stood to inherit it, so he soon set out to arrange her death, too.)

The score at this point is that Michael and Terri had a big fight. Terri was scared but went to sleep, Michael came home late from his evening restaurant job, and Terri ended up face down on the hall floor, permanently brain damaged, in cardiac arrest, and dying. Michael has no explanation for this. Now he has no alibi.

Freepers can think of an explanation.

934 posted on 03/22/2007 5:27:46 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ABC, CBS and NBC Evening News Coverage Favors Those Who Would Stop Feeding Disabled Woman... Slanting the News Against Terri Schiavo

Now there is the no-brainer of the young century.

935 posted on 03/22/2007 5:38:30 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
I was just looking at my previous post and chortling at a mischievous thought of holding an "Alibi for Mikey" contest. Many Freepers are cheerful, artistic and literary folk who should be superb at helping Michael dream up an explanation of his wife's injuries. In real life he lost his only alibi (which was ridiculous anyway) in the autopsy report, but what fun is that for a movie?

This news item about Mike Farrell suggests something even grander. I think we should go beyond the alibi, and volunteer an imaginative cover story PLUS a plot line to save poor Mr. Farrell's doomed drama. Surely, somehow, somewhere out there in space, there is a fake explanation of Terri's injuries that could exonerate her cheating husband.

Mike Farrell desperately needs one.

Darned if I can think of one, though. I keep asking our Visitors for one and they run for the door.

936 posted on 03/22/2007 6:05:46 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: T'wit
Darned if I can think of one, though. I keep asking our Visitors for one and they run for the door.

That is even hard to imagine. Some visitors have come up with fantastic fiction, but yes, they don't stick around long enough to make the stories sound reasonable enough for a ficticious story.

937 posted on 03/22/2007 6:21:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit
Murder has no statute of limitations.

Dying only hastens judgment.

938 posted on 03/22/2007 8:11:02 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: 8mmMauser
When I again read the true story of the horrible and despicable "husband" Michael Schiavo and what he did to Terry for his personal monetary gain and other selfish motives I get sick to my stomach. The NewsMax revelations, in your post above, displays the true evil in this terrible situation.
And make no mistake, actions like this will become commonplace if good people, including and especially elected officials, do not stand up and oppose the killing of innocents, especially the unborn and elderly. People need to realize that this can happen to their parents, their children, themselves if our government officials and judiciary are not held accountable.

Romney is a current example of someone who doesn't recognize the implications of a judiciary gone wild. I also seriously wonder about Giuliani, and McCain. Giuliani's record on judicial appointments is liberal, liberal, liberal. McCain's liberal wife is reason enough to suspect his viewpoints.

939 posted on 03/22/2007 8:26:06 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: T'wit
Thanks for your posts and positions on this topic and thread. Our forefathers understood the values of Life, Liberty, Property -- the first of which was LIFE. Somehow our constitution has been twisted to value murderers and those who would deprive life, rather than protect it. We need elected officials who stand up for innocents not try find legal avenues to destroy it or become apologists for it.

And no, I will not compromise on a presidential candidate who goes only part way on the life issue. The stakes are too high to vote for "a lesser of two evils" so as to get what? A half life?

940 posted on 03/22/2007 8:32:48 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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