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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: vox_freedom
>> And no, I will not compromise on a presidential candidate who goes only part way on the life issue.

Thank you for kind words.

The "life" issue is the 800-pound gorilla of HillaryHealth and related socialized medicine schemes. Rush Limbaugh used to say the HillaryHealth would socialize 14% of the whole economy. The way I figure it, it would socialize 100% of the economy, assuming the other 86% of the people wanted to stay alive. Private medicine was banned, so everyone's life and health would be placed in the hands of government bureaucrats. What a swell idea, Hillary!

Oddly enough, the same folks who screech at 128 decibels about Congress "intervening" in Michael Schiavo's private murder, have nothing but glowing things to say about the prospect of government controlling every medical decision in the country, forever.

941 posted on 03/22/2007 9:52:32 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: vox_freedom
I am in full agreement. That is why we persevere in the spirit of the White Rose,

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

942 posted on 03/22/2007 12:11:31 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit
Oddly enough, the same folks who screech at 128 decibels about Congress "intervening" in Michael Schiavo's private murder, have nothing but glowing things to say about the prospect of government controlling every medical decision in the country, forever. /

True, true. The same folks who will then have to wait for a hip replacement decision by a bureaucrat in DC or glaucoma treatment approval. If they don't believe us they only need to look at the health system that government created in Canada and England.

943 posted on 03/22/2007 1:38:23 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; Lesforlife; T'wit; wagglebee; Sun
Michael Schiavo almost lost his notoriety to Howard K. Stern but not quite.

I'm swamped at the moment but wanted to bttt for Terri's freepers.

On another note, the Schindler's goal to open safe houses is such a fabulous idea. I'm all for it. Until there are safe havens for innocents, we must be vigilant and turn anyplace USA into a safe house. Visit your loved ones early, late and often. Make sure they drink and eat and are not overmedicated.

944 posted on 03/22/2007 2:07:30 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser

Attorney General has skeletons in his closet. That's why W won't fire him.


945 posted on 03/22/2007 2:09:06 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: floriduh voter
Michael Schiavo almost lost his notoriety to Howard K. Stern but not quite.

Schiavo, Howard K. Stern and OJ Simpson should be roommates.

946 posted on 03/22/2007 4:08:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: All; floriduh voter

"Visit your loved ones early, late and often. Make sure they drink and eat and are not overmedicated."

Absolutely, as I found out with my dad. Often they are understaffed and don't have the time to feed patients their full amount of nourishment.


947 posted on 03/22/2007 5:14:24 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: 8mmMauser

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tells ya! Mike Farrell took the side of a known murderer on death row, and now he's made a complete about-turn, taking the side of a known murderer on the loose. Hmmm...


948 posted on 03/22/2007 10:18:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand.)
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To: BykrBayb
>> Mike Farrell took the side of a known murderer on death row

Mike Farrell is in the great tradition of leftist nutcakes. Of course he sides with the murderer! All liberals are drawn like a magnet to the diseased, the criminal and the abnormal. Just as surely, they are obsessed to reject the good, the healthy, the normal, the enduring, the true, the civilized.

Now, one mustn't jump to the conclusion that they do this because they themselves are diseased, criminal and abnormal, and side with their own kind. They are and they do, of course, but there's more to it. Liberals are haters. They hate everything about America, starting with themselves. When Farrell goes to bat for a wife-killer, he's saying "in-your-face" to everyone else and to the America he loathes. He's saying it to God, for God and His creation is what he really hates. That's the hallmark of the Left -- hatred for God.

The Serpent is still busy.

949 posted on 03/23/2007 3:17:54 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: T'wit

You went straight to the core with Farrell. Sometimes things that look mysterious, convoluted, and complex are simple when one understands that core.


950 posted on 03/23/2007 3:41:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
An article on universal health care appearing in RenewAmerica and reprinted with permission from WND...

Excerpted...

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The prospect of government-funded universal health care, however, is another example of America's departure from its strong Judeo-Christian roots and its love affair with socialism. Most Americans are completely unfamiliar with what the Bible teaches about economics. And progressive churches have, unfortunately, dominated the scene by espousing a form of economics that is essentially socialistic principles with a religious veneer. One might even argue the church's loss of influence today is due in part to its support and advancement of the welfare state, which by government pre-emption has siphoned away the church's energy and resources for charitable purposes.

~Snip~

One can already see how liberty and justice, which are unalienable rights — God-given rights — are significantly diminished by such a proposal.

Most importantly, since a government-funded universal health-care system would come at a heavy financial burden to the state, one could only imagine how, over time, it would affect right-to-life issues. It most certainly would make abortion and euthanasia readily available. Children with gestational issues of retardation, spina bifida, etc. would likely require abortion. Vulnerable patients such as the chronically ill, disabled or elderly would be allowed to die as in the Terri Schiavo case, or possibly even terminated.

Universal health care -- unbiblical socialism

8mm


951 posted on 03/23/2007 3:55:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
I can understand Rabbi Tauber may not have had at hand more enlightening facts about Terri's condition as the media was no friend to us, nevertheless, his point is thought provoking...

Terri Schiavo died almost two years ago after being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) for fifteen years. After numerous court cases and fourteen appeals, the courts ruled against the wishes of her parents and decreed that her feeding tube should be removed. Thirteen days later, on March 30, 2005, Terri died of dehydration.

The questions provoked by her death will haunt us for a long time. Here is one: Is it possible for someone in a PVS or even in a coma to live a more purposeful life than a normally functioning person? Traditional Jewish texts, spanning ancient through contemporary times can shed light on this unusual question.

~Snip~

We recall Rabbi Tauber’s words: “Not having higher purpose beyond our own physical desires means we are not really living. We are like the dead.”

From this we may deduct that a comatose person is living a more purposeful life than a fully healthy person who lives only to satisfy his own personal needs.

When we live our lives in a purposeful manner, we are harnessing the spiritual power of Creation. We will never know what divine purpose Terri Schiavo’s life might have served if she had been permitted to live.

Purpose in a Moment

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952 posted on 03/23/2007 4:05:02 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ...America's departure from its strong Judeo-Christian roots and its love affair with socialism.

I can't WAIT for America to depart from its love affair with socialism :-)

953 posted on 03/23/2007 4:17:39 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ...the chronically ill, disabled or elderly would be allowed to die as in the Terri Schiavo case...

Terri was not "allowed" to die. Terri was put to death.

954 posted on 03/23/2007 4:21:02 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: All
Words have meanings (sort of)

Breathing life into death, the right to die in Canada...

Over the past 15 years, the issue of euthanasia grabbed headlines during high-profile legal battles such as the 2005 case of American Terri Schiavo or the killing of severely disabled Tracy Latimer by her father Robert in 1993 in Saskatchewan.

In January 2005, an ailing Kanata man turned his suicide into a statement by informing the media of his plan to kill himself to show his support for assisted suicide.

Ottawa police did not try to prevent 78-year-old Marcel Tremblay, who suffered a lung condition, from placing a helium-filled plastic bag over his head while surrounded by family members.

Right-to-die debate finds new life

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955 posted on 03/23/2007 4:29:23 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter
Maybe they've found a new campaign headquarters for another rudy awakening...

Until now, the closest this city of 76,000 came to national news is that it is between Pinellas Park, where Terri Schiavo spent her last days, and Clearwater, the spiritual hub of the Church of Scientology, the chosen religion of such stars as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Transsexual fight divides Largo

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956 posted on 03/23/2007 4:33:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> What about someone in a coma? What is he accomplishing? He is not able to perform any kind deeds. Illness or accident has led him to this state. But would G-d put a human being into a situation where he does not have the option of serving Him? This would contradict His purpose for mankind. Therefore we can assume that a man in a coma is fulfilling his purpose in the eyes of G-d. For him, at this time, his purpose is to exist from one moment to the next. He enables his nurses, aides, therapists, doctors and family members to perform continual deeds of kindness. He inspires his loved ones to pray for him and to give charity on his behalf. His caretakers provide the ultimate kindness; they care for his every need without receiving any gratification from him in return.

A beautiful way of looking at things!

But we know a little more about Terri. We know that despite her injuries, she could light up the room for those around her. She was a delight to the nurses. Dr. Cheshire and Mr. Gibbs, both of whom knew her first-hand, spoke with particular eloquence about being uplifted in her presence. She was more than a comatose patient to be cared for. She had life. She inspired those close to her.

957 posted on 03/23/2007 4:37:18 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: All
Two years ago today, WND featured this article...

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Michael Schiavo once tried to kill his wife Terri with insulin shots, according to a former caregiver for the brain-injured Florida woman.


Michael Schiavo (Photo: Baynews9.com)

The estranged husband -- who is living with another woman with whom he has two children -- "wants her to die; he doesn't want the truth to be known," said Carla Sauer Iyer in an interview this morning on the Fox News Channel program "Fox and Friends."

WorldNetDaily reported the registered nurse's testimony in 2003 when it was presented in a 24-page complaint filed in a federal lawsuit alleging Michael Schiavo had forbidden medical professionals to provide his wife with any therapy or rehabilitation and had attempted to hasten her death while she was a patient at the Pinellas Park, Fla., hospice she has lived in since 2000.

After Terri Schiavo's collapse in 1990 under disputed circumstances, Michael Schiavo won a malpractice lawsuit, promising to use the money for her therapy. Afterward, however, he requested a "do not resuscitate" order, refused therapy and barred stimulation and treatment for infections.

Michael Schiavo believes the collapse, during which oxygen temporarily was cut off to the brain, was the result of an eating disorder, but her parents suspect he tried to strangle her.

Iyer said in the FNC interview that when Terri Schiavo was having a urinary tract infection, Michael Schiavo "would be excited, thrilled, even hoping that she would die soon."

"What makes you say that?" Iyer was asked.

"He would blurt out 'When is she gonna die? When is that B-I-T-C-H gonna die? Hasn't she died yet?'"

STARVATION: DAY 6 Nurse: Michael tried to kill Terri Former caregiver asserts husband 'doesn't want the truth to be known'

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958 posted on 03/23/2007 4:38:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Well, there's a new one. It's OK in this town to kill a helpless disabled woman, but it raises eyebrows if Steve Stanton wants to be Susan Stanton.


959 posted on 03/23/2007 4:42:44 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> "He would blurt out 'When is she gonna die? When is that B-I-T-C-H gonna die? Hasn't she died yet?'"

Carla, Carla. Don't be so judgmental! It isn't that he hated her so much (though of course he did). It's that he stood to inherit a million bucks! A guy can do all right with a dead wife and a million bucks. Y'know?

960 posted on 03/23/2007 4:45:24 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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