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Republicans 2008: Giuliani 29%, McCain 19% (Angus-Reid Poll)
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Posted on 02/01/2007 8:06:02 PM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:07:33 PM PST
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
To: areafiftyone; PhiKapMom; JimFreedom
Dang it...Rudy is still ahead! Ping that dog-eared list!
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:07:33 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: Dark Skies
I hate to say it, but it looks to me as if Giuliani's got the best chance right now.
I hate to say it because I'm not a Giuliani supporter.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:09:10 PM PST
by
pcottraux
(It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
To: Dark Skies
Why are 2 Democrats leading the Republican list?
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:09:24 PM PST
by
Marine Inspector
(Customs & Border Protection Officer)
To: Dark Skies
What do the 2012 polls say?
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:09:39 PM PST
by
kinoxi
To: nopardons
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:09:56 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: Dark Skies
I can hear that Notre Dame chant now (from the Film "Rudy").... "RuuuuDE! RuuuuDE! RuuuuuuuDE!!!!"
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:10:02 PM PST
by
Danae
(Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Gingrich is gaining ground overall. McCain is TANKING.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:10:14 PM PST
by
RockinRight
(What I want in '08: Gingrich's politics, Reagan's appeal, and Tancredo's immigration stance.)
To: Danae
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:11:33 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: RockinRight
Gingrich is gaining ground overall. McCain is TANKING.I met Rudy at Bagelicious in Marietta a few years ago. Vy bright guy. Bit on the wonkish side.
Struck me as a visionary...not necessarily a Presidential sort.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:14:31 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: Dark Skies
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:20:48 PM PST
by
Danae
(Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...
Glad to be of service! If anyone would like on the Rudy ping list, please freep mail areafiftyone!
Thanks,
PKM
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:20:48 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Im pro-choice. Im pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. No, I have not supported that, and I dont see my position on that changing, he responded. Source: CNN.com, Inside Politics Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htmANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)
RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights. KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.
JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.
KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.
GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.
Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY
Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:21:23 PM PST
by
narses
(St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
To: Dark Skies
I also love that film, and still cry when I watch it.
Here we are, almost 2 years before election day, and Giuliani is the frontrunner? I'll admit, I'm voting for whomever wins the party's nomination, but I'd sure like it to not be either of the two, Rudy or McCain.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:21:37 PM PST
by
Theresawithanh
(Growing old isn't so bad, especially when you consider the alternative!)
To: Marine Inspector; Spiff
Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:
--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989
--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992
--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989
--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett
--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997
--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:21:56 PM PST
by
narses
(St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
To: Dark Skies
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:22:42 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: RockinRight
The Real Rudy Giuliani: From Human Events:
Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance
As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:
"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.
I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...
Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.
Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:
"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999
It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?
Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.
An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate
In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:24:04 PM PST
by
narses
(St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
To: Dark Skies
I met Rudy at Bagelicious in Marietta a few years ago. Vy bright guy. Bit on the wonkish side. I repeat, Newtie...not Rudy!
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:24:11 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: narses
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?Hehe...come on Narses. You aren't a gun nut. Takes one to know one.
I is and you ain't!
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:25:55 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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