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Global Warming on Mars [Not Man-made, where is the media, even conservative media?]
Power Line Blog ^ | September 21, 2005 | Glenn Reynolds (& John)

Posted on 01/31/2007 11:23:50 PM PST by Moseley

Global Warming on Mars

Glenn Reynolds highlighted this item from the Mars Global Surveyor project:

[F]or three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress. While it is theoretically possible for human and animal activities to affect the climate on Earth, the main factor causing fluctuations in temperatures on this planet, as on Mars, is variability in energy output from the Sun. The Mars Global Surveyor data suggest what I think would be a relatively simple experiment: Why not place thermometers in a few locations on Mars, equipped with radio transmitters that would send temperature data to Earth or to a spacecraft? You'd have to take into account the two planets' different atmospheres, of course; the atmosphere on Mars is thin, but consists almost entirely of carbon dioxide. In time--it would take more than a few years' observations, obviously--such an experiment would settle once and for all the question whether human activities are making a significant contribution to climate variations on Earth. And I don't think the experiment would be very hard to conduct. The main catch I can see is that figuring out how to account for the planets' different atmospheres might recreate the debates that are now going on about how to properly model the Earth's weather system.

On the other hand, if it were that easy, maybe it already would have been done. Readers, what do you think?

UPDATE: They don't think much of my idea, evidently. For one thing, there are easier ways to measure the variation in energy output from the Sun directly. For another, calculating overall temperature changes on Mars would take more than a handful of thermometers; how, exactly, to do it would replicate one of the major debates now going on over temperature changes on Earth.

Still, it seems to me that even a rough estimate of the extent to which increasing solar output is raising temperatures on Mars would be a useful reality check on the "global warming" claims being made here on Earth.

Posted by John at 07:59 AM


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carbondioxide; globalwarming; greenhousegases; mars
This is potentially the biggest story of the decade. The pinheads are all wrong. All the Europeans who love to hate America have quiche all over their faces. This could change the course of economic development world-wide, and the prosperity and living standards of the entire world. AND YET WHERE IS THE MEDIA? Rush Limbaugh, even?
1 posted on 01/31/2007 11:23:52 PM PST by Moseley
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To: Moseley

The Mars Climate Sounder operating on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter measures temperature, humidity, and dust content of the martian atmosphere, as well as potential variations that occur, at various altitudes. We've already got a thermometer over there.


2 posted on 01/31/2007 11:38:38 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: Moseley

I guess comparing mars climate with earths climate and assuming that the melt down of the polar solid co2 deposits follows the same principles of the water ice melt down througout earths surface is ummm - stupid.

Not that I hate you for beeing it.


3 posted on 02/01/2007 12:23:50 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: cabojoe

But not long enough to know much.

On the other hand the polar ice caps have been visible from earth for many years. And they've been shrinking. We have much more data on that front.

Here's an interesting thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805782/posts


4 posted on 02/01/2007 12:39:05 AM PST by DB
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To: DB
Everyone has missed the point including this article, it's Bush's fault.
5 posted on 02/01/2007 3:16:44 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Moseley

bttt


6 posted on 02/04/2007 6:45:58 AM PST by Beowulf
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