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Giuliani Is Cautious (indecisive?) as He Weighs ’08 Decision
NY Times ^ | SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 01/27/2007 2:26:06 PM PST by narses

Rudolph W. Giuliani, who developed a national reputation for decisive and reassuring leadership after 9/11, now faces the odd challenge of having to reassure some supporters that he can be decisive about a very different issue: running for president. Even as his fellow Republican John McCain and fellow New Yorker Hillary Rodham Clinton have all but formally declared their candidacies, Mr. Giuliani has proceeded more cautiously.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; gohunter08; medialies; rudy
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Vote for whoever you like. Who do you support?


381 posted on 01/27/2007 8:16:28 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: BunnySlippers
Do the mods talk to non-mods about other Freepers as FA says?

Never.

382 posted on 01/27/2007 8:16:52 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; Fierce Allegiance

Draw your attention to 382 if you haven't passed out yet.


383 posted on 01/27/2007 8:18:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: My GOP
everyone knows Rudy is very competetent

No evacuation plan for the World Trade center after the first attack.

Emergency response protocols not followed led to many needless deaths on Sept. 11.

Allowing Mrs. Clinton a senate seat to launch a presidentila bid was incompetent.

Every candidate Giuliani campaigned for in '06 LOST.

What are you smoking?

384 posted on 01/27/2007 8:18:56 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sunsong
Btw - how is the anti-abortion movement doing, iyo?

In reality not so well. But there are a considerable amount of people and organizations trying to do something about it instead of being smug about it. With the previous elections being so close go ahead and support Rudy. Hillary's inauguration will be quite the media event.

385 posted on 01/27/2007 8:19:56 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Sunsong
Duncan Hunter, right now as he is the only one who seems conservative.

I will not vote for McCain because of his ties to Kerry, Feingold, Kennedy and the Keating Five!

Rudy is a democrat!
Romney is a fake!
386 posted on 01/27/2007 8:23:33 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: beltfed308
Wow. My first answer! I do appreciate it.

No, it's not going very well is it? And it's not likely to be a predominant issue in 2008 either. Perhaps the idea of demanding that all presidential candidates be rabidly pro-lie is NOT what is going to change hearts and minds throughout the country? Maybe social issues really belong in the states?

387 posted on 01/27/2007 8:24:35 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: zbigreddogz
A person's ideology is totally separate from their qualifications.

Bullsh!t.

A person whose ideology is based on a political/economic system whose implementation requires the complete eradication of the underlying principles of the U.S. Constitution is utterly unqualified to be a U.S. Supreme Court justice. If you don't accept that, then you'd do well to figure out how you intend to live and do business under a governing document that has been subverted by emanations, penumbras, international law, etc.

388 posted on 01/27/2007 8:25:54 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Hey Francis....remember mmm....six months ago you said Rudy would collapse and I would be "crying in my beer" over the Chicago Bears.

Well six months later the Bears are in the Superbowl!!!! And Rudy is nailing down the lead! LOL...looks like you need a beer to cry in. I'll toss in a quarter.

Knucklehead.
389 posted on 01/27/2007 8:26:37 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Great - support Duncan Hunter then! How do you see trashing Giuliani as being supportive of Hunter?

I haven't made up my mind yet. I think it is far too early for that. But I don't like the bashing and trashing - so I like to mix it up with the bashers and trashers :-)

390 posted on 01/27/2007 8:27:07 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

"No evacuation plan for the World Trade center after the first attack."

The second attack was just 14 minutes after the first attack. Not alot of time there.

"Allowing Mrs. Clinton a senate seat to launch a presidentila bid was incompetent."

He withdrew because he had prostate cancer, you vile, hateful person!!

"Every candidate Giuliani campaigned for in '06 LOST."

That's because the sitting Republican President has 30% approval ratings. No fault of Giuliani's. If you don't know that then you are totally ignorant of political realities, which you are.

"What are you smoking?"
Nothing, but whatever it is you are it sure has made you one rude, vile, and hateful person. Do yourself a favor? Find Jesus and give up that stupidity called atheism. You wouldn't be the rude, vile, hateful person you are now.


391 posted on 01/27/2007 8:27:35 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives should be realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: appeal2
Abortion is here to stay so get over it and move on to important issues like the survival of western civilization.

Unbelievable is the self-contradiction within that statement. The unanesthetized slaughter of 49,000,000 innocent Americans is something you can just live with, be comfortable with? You're okay that over four thousand little people, on average, are going be dismembered for the crime of merely existing? And you see ZERO connection between the massive-scale execution of our future generations and our future survival? I would suggest you re-read your statement and look at the irony.

As far as I am concerned, there IS no other issue to address until we end abortion. A society that no longer cares about something this brutal and this unjust on this scale is a society not worth saving IMO.

Consistently - incl. after the latest election - polls show 52%-54% of Americans oppose most abortion - and present policy does NOT reflect the will of the people. So while my views are quite strong on this, I believe I speak to some degree for a great many on this point.

392 posted on 01/27/2007 8:28:27 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Sunsong
Are you Conservative?
393 posted on 01/27/2007 8:29:03 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Reagan Man
Rudy is talking about appointing judges

GIULIANI: Sure. That's be exactly the kind of person you'd think that you'd want to appoint, somebody who shares kind of your general outlook, but hasn't indicated and hasn't really predetermined most of the cases that are going to be determined by the court.

Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them. It's sort of an extraordinary thing to ask of President Bush. Nobody asked it of President Clinton.

President Clinton appointed people that basically agreed with his political philosophy, which is left of center. Of course, President Bush is going to appoint people that basically agree with his political philosophy. And then what we found out about the Supreme Court is, we don't really know until after they're on the court where they're going to end up.

Thanks for the transcript. Looks like someone is doing some spinning.

394 posted on 01/27/2007 8:29:51 PM PST by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: Lexinom

How do you feel you are doing so far in preventing abortion?


395 posted on 01/27/2007 8:30:20 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

He seems like a conservative to me on fiscal, domestic, and foreign policy and a states righter on social issues. No problems there.


396 posted on 01/27/2007 8:30:22 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives should be realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: My GOP
However, everyone knows Rudy is very competetent and would make a great CiC and he'll bring the votes back in.

Someone needs to explain to me how a Republican candidate in 2008 is going to generate any enthusiasm among Republican voters if his campaign -- by definition -- will have to be predicated on the notion that his Republican predecessor has been an incompetent Commander-in-Chief.

397 posted on 01/27/2007 8:31:11 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

LOL. Good night and good night everyone else. Until next and the time after that for the next year.


398 posted on 01/27/2007 8:32:02 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives should be realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: Sunsong
There are other issues besides the abortion issue as pointed out in this thread. They add up and affect a large percentage of potential voters. Do you really think that without the NRA and the religous right that Rudy could pull it off? That is not even factoring in the immigration issue.

Name recognition will not cut it as it hasn't even started to get warm in the kitchen yet for Rudy. Remember that the country was close to 50-50 on the last presidential election.

399 posted on 01/27/2007 8:32:02 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Yes, I believe in leaving people alone and letting them live their own lives. I agree with Jefferson - the government that governs least governs best. I believe in personal liberty and personal responsiblity...for starters.

So, as I said - support Hunter. And now answer my question - how do you see you efforts here trashing Rudy as being supportive of Hunter?

400 posted on 01/27/2007 8:33:17 PM PST by Sunsong
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