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To: tpaine

In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.


3 posted on 01/27/2007 1:46:22 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Another tragic case of poor target aquisition.

www.fortunecity.com/victorian/mill/1189


10 posted on 01/27/2007 1:55:45 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (Tools of Liberation)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Another tragic case of poor target aquisition.

www.fortunecity.com/victorian/mill/1189


14 posted on 01/27/2007 1:58:15 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (Tools of Liberation)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so. ~If~ [BIG if] he had a valid reason for killing, -- he killed the wrong men. The city officials forcing the issue were his enemies, not the workingmen.
19 posted on 01/27/2007 2:01:30 PM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.

~If~ [BIG if] he had a valid reason for killing, -- he killed the wrong men. The city officials forcing the issue were his enemies, not the workingmen.

22 posted on 01/27/2007 2:02:40 PM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.

Very true. But this is not one of those times.

Eminent domain is a power reserved by every sovereign government since the dawn of civilization. We are Constitutionally protected by the Takings clause of the Fifth Amendment, which requires the government to pay us fair value for land they require for public purposes.

However, we are not protected from eminent domain itself. This man was wrong. He had no right or standing to deprive these two men of their lives. He had no reason to leave their families widowed and fatherless.

Idiots like this do terrible damage to the Second Amendment rights we must preserve for the day of REAL injustice.

-ccm

34 posted on 01/27/2007 2:12:04 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

--In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.--

Statements like yours do nothing but help the anti-gunners.


35 posted on 01/27/2007 2:12:28 PM PST by UpAllNight
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.

Over a sewer easement!?
Lawyers trying to take house and land for some slimy developer I could understand,but this is a damm fool reason to kill somebody

39 posted on 01/27/2007 2:15:34 PM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.

Actually, that's not an opinion. That's a fact.

100 posted on 01/27/2007 3:01:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ClearCase_guy
"In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so."

A refreshingly honest point of view. You are right. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Carolyn

130 posted on 01/27/2007 3:34:18 PM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Re #3 I agree 11


156 posted on 01/27/2007 4:40:19 PM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.

He owned the property, all the while knowing that there was an easement. When the town decided to put a sewer line within easement, they notified him, as required by law. Those men had every right to be there, doing the work for the city, and since they were exercising the town's right to a sewer line on that easement, he had no right to shoot them.

320 posted on 01/27/2007 10:24:24 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ClearCase_guy

I haven't read this whole thing but I have followed a few sub-threads in it and now make the following observations:
Some think he should have sued the city rather than shoot the workers. To them I say, how far do you think his suit would have gone considering he would have had to pay an attorney while all the time he was also paying the city's attorneys through his taxes.
Some others think he was "more or less" justified in protecting his property with lethal force. While the idea of using such force is certainly anti-social it does get the attention of the powers that be - - much more so than a lawsuit buried in a city attorney's office.
Some will say (if they haven't said it already, as I said, I haven't read this whole thing) that the way to effect change is through the ballot box. To them I say, get real! Trying to change the way a city does things with one vote would be akin to p!$$!ng in the ocean and expecting a tsunami!
After a period of mourning, finger-pointing and castigation there is a possibility that the city will do a better job of contacting those whose property they are about to dig up. The shooter chose a harsh but effective way to make change. How many of us have done anywhere near as much with a lawsuit, a ballot or an anonymous comment on a public forum?


449 posted on 01/28/2007 9:34:48 AM PST by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"...sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so."

Amen

708 posted on 01/28/2007 3:16:16 PM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In my opinion, the whole reason we have the Second Amendment is that sometimes the King's Men need killing, and the people need to have the ability to do so.

Certainly not justified in this case.

962 posted on 01/30/2007 10:16:33 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You are kidding right? Advocating the execution of innocent American workers?


992 posted on 01/31/2007 10:30:48 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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