Posted on 01/27/2007 1:36:11 PM PST by tpaine
Income level = intelligence/knowledge level?
You cannot be serious.
http://www.hannibal.net/stories/090800/com_0908000007.html http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/09/07/officer.shot.03.ap/index.html http://www.amarillo.com/stories/090800/usn_mankills.shtml http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/09/08/officer.shot.ap/index.html http://www.morningsun.net/stories/091000/kan_0910000006.shtml
The feud between Watson, who works for a lead mining company, and the city began about 10 years ago when Watson purchased the vacant lot where the city held an easement, Alderman Rexel Conway said.
Watson initially owned a smaller lot, but bought adjacent property about 10 years ago, alderman Rexel Conway said. That second lot contained an easement allowing city workers to get to and from a sewage lagoon behind Watson's house. Watson has disputed the city's right to cross the property, Conway said. ''He didn't want us on the property,'' Conway said. ''We've had a couple of disputes, but it always got settled.''
Area I am looking at they are leaving due to the Mines being closed, so no good paying jobs.
No problem for me, I will be retired.
It isn't that we don't think our country is great, it's that we don't think it's as free as it used to be. In many countries it is the norm to have to go to the government hat-in-hand and beg for what you need, and risk being killed for doing so. Nonetheless, In this country you didn't used to have to get government permission to do things on your property. If you wanted a deck, you built it; if you wanted everyone to keep out, you posted it and the law upheld it; if you wanted lights on outside, or didn't, you did what you wanted. Compare that to today, where in most placed you need to ask government permission to build a deck (building permits); need government permission to post it (sign ordinances) and can't count on pressing charges against anyone who does trespass; some places you are required to keep a pole light on in front of your house at all times for public safety, while in other places you are prohibited from having outside lights on because of animal habits. That's not the freedom we used to have - the Nanny State was never intended to be here. In a relatively short time (my lifetime, and I'm only 48) we've gone from a presumption that you had the right to your property to a presumption that government should have control of your property. How far will it go? Will we end up as one of the countries where you have to fear for your life when you go to ask the government permission to grow a garden? We are angry at the path we are on.
Please list some locations in the contiguous United States that are not subject to property taxes on any level. I may want to consider such locations for future living.
Thank you.
Anyone who would support or condone cold-blooded murder is a kook, and appears as a kook to any sober citizen.
One time I got them to retract the headline on the top of the fold front page story. It took some work but in the end they admitted that there was nothing in the story that justified the headline and in fact the story actually refuted the headline. (They were just getting in the democratic talking point).
Only problem, retractions are in small print on page 2 and nobody ever reads that.
I once worked with a reporter about why he didn't refer to his subject as a socialist when the subject of his story was a proud, open socialist. He agreed and the next front page story he correctly referred to a person (early 20th century Californian named by a state senator as the inspiration for a bill) as a socialist. Despite the fact that all history books refer to this guy as a socialist, this reporter was relagated to the 3rd section and it was about a year before he got a front page story again. I felt sorry for what I talked him into doing. I got the word "socialist" on the front page but hurt his career.
Like shooting maintenance men working on a sewer? A sewer that falls directly into "public use" covered by the Constitution that you "libertarians" pretend to uphold?
Read much? I'm defending the sewer workers. -- And, - you calling me a libertarian cinches the fact that you're just another anti-libertarian troll. -- I don't pretend about our Constitution.
Most of us also agree that we can spread our views from behind a computer or a piece of paper in order to try to convince other fools to do the right thing.
Trying to convince others to become the next Drega or Watson isn't the right thing.
How weird. No one here is advocating that.
In fact, it's one of the reasons that we have a Second Amendment in the first place. If violent wacked out freaks think they are going to bully their way into establishing their own warped view of reality, the rest of us have a right to defend ourselves. Suprynowicz and his ilk will find God --
So will you my boy. -- Very soon.
I'm not your boy. And unlike Suprynowicz and his ilk, I know that God exists, and that I ain't him.
You will find a freakers 'god', soon my boy.. Trust me.
--Nonetheless, In this country you didn't used to have to get government permission to do things on your property. If you wanted a deck, you built it; --
Yea. One time we could keep a bunch of rusted junk cars, old tire and woodpiles around. To heck with our neighbors, it was our right!
Realistically, some communities do go overboard but for the most part, we live in these communities because we believe that these regulations enhance our life and improve our property values.
Sure you are. *Rollseyes*
-- And, - you calling me a libertarian cinches the fact that you're just another anti-libertarian troll. --
Ad Hominem.
I don't pretend about our Constitution.
Yes you do. If you didn't, you would be acknowledging that the Constitution allows easements like the one in the story. This isn't about seizing someone's private land to give to another private landowner for developing. This is about a trash trash piece of garbage trying to fight an EXISTING easement, trying to make it so that the rest of the town wouldn't have a functioning sewer system.
Remember. Your rights end where other's begin.
How weird. No one here is advocating that.
More than a few are advocating just that.
You will find a freakers 'god', soon my boy.. Trust me.
Again, I am not your boy. The rest of your comment makes no sense.
Anybody who thinks citizens should passively grab their ankles anytime government comes along to seize their property is a mouse.
Here's PA.
http://www.papropertytaxrelief.com/propertytaxes/cwp/view.asp?a=1126&q=448122
Indiana is pushing a bill for no property tax but it will probably not get fullfilled.
FL is working on raising the homestead exemption to reduce property taxes.
""Will we end up as one of the countries where you have to fear for your life when you go to ask the government permission to grow a garden? We are angry at the path we are on.""
Timothy McVeigh probably thought alot like you do and that was a real blow for freedom was'nt it? Did you celebrate Oklahoma City like they did 9/11 in the streets of Lebanon?
People who feel this strongly should take up their argument with those in charge not the poor drones who simply try to earn a living and go home to their families.
McVeigh was acting out on the kind of anger you possess. All those dead people and what did he change or win for his cause?
You celebrate the murder of two men who probably had families of their own by an obviously mentally deranged man over a sewer line easement?
A real blow for freedom? I think not.
Sick.
You message is gettin old.
Are you another one with reading comprehension problems? Try again:
For years, Garry Watson, 49, of little Bunker, Mo., (population 390) had been squabbling with town officials over the sewage line easement which ran across his property to the adjoining, town-operated sewage lagoon.
Residents say officials grew dissatisfied with their existing easement, and announced they were going to excavate a new sewer line across the landowner's property. Capt. Chris Ricks of the Missouri Highway Patrol reports Watson's wife, Linda, was served with "easement right-of-way papers" on Sept. 6. She gave the papers to Watson when he got home at 5 a.m. the next morning from his job at a car battery recycling plant northeast of Bunker. Watson reportedly went to bed for a short time, but arose about 7 a.m. when the city work crew arrived.
The wife is served with papers and the work crew shows up the next day??
Clearly, this is not the most well-written report I ever read and I would love to know more details, but something here (besides the sewage) stinks to high heaven.
Fast Eddie has little desire to buck the wishes of "his" House and Senate.
Corruption, thy name is Ed Rendell.
Which law?
Try reading the posts & using links:
post #195
You were talking about anarchy earlier.
On another thread we are discussing
"government intrusion" on property rights:
Bill would let workers have guns in cars (GA)
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1773131/posts
You're gettin old. Don't post to me anymore.
Have a nice life.
--The wife is served with papers and the work crew shows up the next day??--
The words you reposted in your post, "For years, ..." indicate this was not a sudden thing.
I went to the link in 195. It seems that the bill agrees very well with the position I posted independently of reading the bill.
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