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NBC's Anti-Rudy Push Poll
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/27/2007 9:01:32 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You think Rudy's a liar?

Yes.

He's a slick and shrewd political opportunist/chamelion, ala john f'ing kerry, who is willing to say or do anything in order to get elected.

I don't trust rudy changing his views to be more palatable to conservatives, any more than I believe hillary's move toward the "center".

On core conservative issues, I don't believe any last minute, pre-election conversions.

121 posted on 01/27/2007 10:44:23 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
No, it only means that I will get what you THINK I deserve.

Good!

122 posted on 01/27/2007 10:44:40 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

No, childish behavior.

Hunter is a threat to Rudy, who would be TROUNCED by Richardson. The Dems will put up Richardson, not Hillary or Obama, and he can be made to look more conservative than rudy in a heartbeat, sucking up nearly all the middle ground vote.

You can't see it yet, but you will when we lose big and bad with Rudy, just like we did back in november with all the mushy candidates that were put up.


123 posted on 01/27/2007 10:45:11 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; moose2004
Moose does not need your political interpretation of proper philosophical behavior.
124 posted on 01/27/2007 10:45:30 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Rudy Giuliani fought the law and Congress for years before 9-11 to keep NYC an open sanctuary city for illegal aliens...foreign nationals of the exact sort who flew the planes into the WTC."

Sorry to have to tell you, but the men who hijacked planes on 911 were not illegal aliens. ALL of them were in this country legally.
125 posted on 01/27/2007 10:45:57 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: PhiKapMom

I love it!


126 posted on 01/27/2007 10:46:40 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If you are a true conservative, and can support RINO-rudy, my bet is that you are hopelessly naive.


127 posted on 01/27/2007 10:47:56 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

LOL! I do not need you telling who to post to. You may disagree all you want, but you will never tell me what to do.

And clearly, moose could use some help.


128 posted on 01/27/2007 10:48:13 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
ALL of them were in this country legally.

Not true. Their visas had expired. And they fraudulently applied for those visas on false pretenses, which is also illegal. There were in this country illegally and most of them would have been found and removed if we were enforcing our immigration laws as they should be enforced.

129 posted on 01/27/2007 10:48:28 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

They are determined to make this place a DU for their cause, its to great a place for that to happen and I am not going to let them.


130 posted on 01/27/2007 10:48:44 AM PST by JimFreedom (Pragmatic Common Sense Conservative - Too)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah a disaster. May actually expand base, big tent like Reagan. Your a meathead and you are like the weasels on left who want their party to die.....You can't agree with everyone on every issue, but he is right on most things, especially big things.. certainly much better than any RAT. Losers like losing. Loser


131 posted on 01/27/2007 10:48:58 AM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: DocH

Easy, Doc, glgb is no liberal and is certainly not naive! I would expect him to read up on hunter and that would change his mind though!


132 posted on 01/27/2007 10:49:23 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Anal prognostication is relative to Totalitarian Populism, which leaves your 'mushy' candidate theory up for debate.


133 posted on 01/27/2007 10:51:22 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: Spiff
I believe you are right there. They did, however, ENTER the country legally. Unless Rudy favors not applying the laws to those overstaying their visas, the other poster's comment was a cheap shot and inaccurate.
134 posted on 01/27/2007 10:52:16 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I love it too -- I am sitting here laughing like crazy as they keep on spinning like a top. Proves to me that Rudy has a lot of traction or they wouldn't be like this. Most fun I have had around here in a long time! :)


135 posted on 01/27/2007 10:52:59 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Hunter - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: JimFreedom

They forget that their own hypocritical rhetoric goes unnoticed on this forum. They simply resort to insults when we point that out.


136 posted on 01/27/2007 10:54:20 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Totalitarian Populism is trying to quash debate over a candidate whose principles are directly at odds with the party to which he is a member.

It says a lot about those who would support paying lip service to murdering babies, the constitution and citizens rights.


137 posted on 01/27/2007 10:54:47 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: GoMonster

Way to go!


138 posted on 01/27/2007 10:55:07 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Hunter - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Unless Rudy favors not applying the laws to those overstaying their visas, the other poster's comment was a cheap shot and inaccurate.

As mayor of NYC, Rudy continued the city's 'sanctuary city' policies enacted by his Democrat predecessors. In fact, he went on to sue the Federal Government to try to keep him from having to enforcing any immigration laws and policies. When he lost that lawsuit, he ignored the ruling and continued to flout immigration law. That should tell you all you need to know about how Rudy feels about applying immigration laws.

139 posted on 01/27/2007 10:55:21 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
It looks like I posted too soon. You were wrong, and I was partially right. All but three were in the country legally on 911.

"According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were foreigners. All of them entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly tourist visas with entry permits for six months. Although four of them attended flight school in the United States, only one is known to have entered on an appropriate visa for such study, and one entered on an F-1 student visa. Besides the four pilots, all but one of the terrorists entered the United States only once and had been in the country for only three to five months before the attacks.

The four pilots had been in the United States for extended periods, although none was a legal permanent resident. Some had received more than one temporary visa, most of which were currently valid on September 11, but at least three of them had fallen out of status and were, therefore, in the United States illegally."

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersc582
140 posted on 01/27/2007 10:57:11 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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