Putting Sandy Berger to the test (He refuses to take court ordered Lie Detector)

Michelle.Malkin.com ^ | 1/23/07 | Michelle Malkin

[teddyballgame]

As the FNC story points out, the document-filching Clinton aide did agree to take a polygraph test as part of a plea deal reached in September 2005. Now, some GOP lawmakers want to know why the Justice Department won't follow through:

The Justice Department should administer a polygraph test to former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger to find out what documents he took from the National Archives in 2002 and 2003, Rep. Tom Davis wrote in a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales dated Monday. Davis, ranking Republican on the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, is leading a group of 18 lawmakers who say the Justice Department has been "remarkably incurious" about Berger's decision to remove documents relating to the Sept. 11 commission's inquiry into his role in helping prevent terror attacks during the Clinton administration.

"It is extraordinarily important that the Justice Department avail itself of its rights under the plea agreement and administer a polygraph examination to Mr. Berger to question him about the extent of his thievery.

[Eastbound]

""It is extraordinarily important that the Justice Department avail itself of its rights under the plea agreement and administer a polygraph examination to Mr. Berger to question him about the extent of his thievery."

But what if he admits to the full extent of his thievery? Will he be prosecuted for stealing documents or does the gummint only want to know what he stole? That would make a bit difference on the outcome of the test.

People stress on a test if they have something to lose if the truth be known. If the latter, he could easily lie in response to a question and stress indicating deception would not register.

Even so, if the test indicated deception on a question, without an admission of guilt or a confession, the test would have to be called 'inconclusive.'

[Texagirl4W]

I know this is going to sound dumb, but, what does DBM stand for?

[traditional1]

Although the polygraph would be a waste of time (these types can lie while their blood pressure actually would decrease), but REFUSAL should result in revocation of the Plea Bargain, and a full-blown Justice Department investigation and Grand Jury investigation would be great prior to the 2008 election.k

[steve-b]

What next, a court-ordered dunking into the pond to determine whether he sinks or floats?

So-called "lie detectors" are poppycock.

[steve-b]

Precisely. The physiological indicators that supposedly indicate lying simply do not arise in habitual liars (Clinton could tell you that day is night and not tweak the needle) and can be turned on and off at will with a little understanding of how the magic machine works.

[montag813]

Berger should be treated as this fictional NSA Director from "24"--Roger Stanton--was treated by faux President David Palmer (bound with feet in a water bucket and CPR electric paddle shocks applied to his head)

[Plutarch]

The Bush Administration's failure to vigorously pursue this case further deflates conservative support. If Bush simply enforced the laws, against Berger, against illegals, he might give us reason to like him. He gives us nothing, save for a war which he regrets starting in the first place.

[rusureitflies?]

Sandy Berger? Get him!

[LibLieSlayer]

Regardless, the Court Ordered Sentence requires that toon's lap-dog has to take a polygraph test and be questioned in depth about his motivation (from Rush Limbaugh).

LLS

[milwguy]

Think he said he was out of toilet paper?

[mcshot]

I sure hope this works out as you propose but doubt it will as he's gotten a relative free ride versus the rope for treason.

[FreedomNeocon]

The Bush Administration's failure to vigorously pursue this case further deflates conservative support. If Bush simply enforced the laws, against Berger, against illegals, he might give us reason to like him. He gives us nothing, save for a war which he regrets starting in the first place.

This has nothing to do with Bush, he can't pursue anything. They can in PR but it is the responsibly of the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT to pursue these cases.

They did in Plame, they didn't in Burger. (obviously there is corruption fairly high up in that dept)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Adiemus]

The Bush Administration's failure to vigorously pursue this case further deflates conservative support. If Bush simply enforced the laws, against Berger, against illegals, he might give us reason to like him. He gives us nothing, save for a war which he regrets starting in the first place.

My thoughts exactly. I see all the leftist media hoopla about how Libby is being figuratively drawn and quartered for a memory lapse, all while Berger has his wrists slapped. Add that to the total NON-action of the Justice Department regarding all the classified leaks, to the same leftist media and the Federal Government ignoring the invasion from our southern border -- I have lost hope for our country.

My father, God rest his soul, fought in WWII, and my brother, may God also rest his soul, during Vietnam - must be having seizures in their graves as they watch our own leaders blindly substitute media propaganda for the people's will, and madly force the nation off the edge of the cliff.

I voted for Bush going all the way back to his Texas Governor days. I am beginning to think W sold his soul in exchange for his second term, and is operating as he is now, and has been since January 2005, because his will is no longer his own.

But back to reality, we all really need to ask what happened? Why did (nearly) all of our representatives in Washington, including Mr. Bush, decide to abandon us and join the left?

[Plutarch]

They can in PR but it is the responsibly of the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT to pursue these cases.

Uh, I think that the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT has an Attorney General, who Bush appointed. I'll bet that a manilla folder entitled "Berger" has been on his desk. You know, it wouldn't shock me to find that the name "Berger" has been discussed between officials in the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT and the White House.

Office of the Attorney General

The Judiciary Act of 1789 created the Office of the Attorney General which evolved over the years into the head of the Department of Justice and chief law enforcement officer of the Federal Government. The Attorney General represents the United States in legal matters generally and gives advice and opinions to the President and to the heads of the executive departments of the Government when so requested. In matters of exceptional gravity or importance the Attorney General appears in person before the Supreme Court. Since the 1870 Act that established the Department of Justice as an executive department of the government of the United States, the Attorney General has guided the world's largest law office and the central agency for enforcement of federal laws.

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales

[Cindy]

Adding a direct link to your article, Teddy.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006739.htm

[t2buckeye]

FBI files????

[nw_arizona_granny]

Cal, the outside contractor, also shows up in the OKC bombing, I recall it as being an electrical contractor.

[RunningWolf]

Good point and if the Justice dept does not play that card, then dig even deeper and beyond Berger.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

Water boarding, cattle prods and knuckle screws are more productive at gaining information than are lie detector tests.