Posted on 01/23/2007 7:11:06 AM PST by shrinkermd
THE news that 51 percent of all women live without a spouse might be enough to make you invest in cat futures.
But consider, too, the flip side: about half of all men find themselves in the same situation. As the number of people marrying has dropped off in the last 45 years, the marriage rate has declined equally for men and for women.
The stereotype has been cemented in the popular culture: the hard-charging career girl who gets her comeuppance, either violently or dying a slow death by late-night memo and Chinese takeout...
But when it comes to marriage, the two Americas aren’t divided by gender. And it’s not the career girls on the losing end. It’s their less educated manicurists or housekeepers, women who might arguably be less able to live on their own.
The emerging gulf is instead one of class — what demographers, sociologists and those who study the often depressing statistics about the wedded state call a “marriage gap” between the well-off and the less so.
Statistics show that college educated women are more likely to marry than non-college educated women — although they marry, on average, two years later.
Women with more education also are becoming less likely to divorce, or inclined to divorce, than those with less education. They are even less likely to be widowed all in all, less likely to end up alone.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
My take is she has promoted the harlot sex image to young women and has been anti american for years.
But don't you know women only marry so they can take away the guy's house, car, kids, toys, and money?
I know one woman personally who did just that.
I believe that the legal system and societal attitudes are really stacked against men. Feminists have sought to change the balance of power in relationships between men and women, if you will, and they have been spectacularly successful. They've also lied to women. I believe they seek a fundamental reordering of society, and they're achieving it.
But even on FR, if you suggest restoring society, all kinds come out of the woodwork.
Dude, you need to hang out with better women.
Ah well, I think JenB married me for my cool toys too now that I think about it...
It's been 25 years since I've last seen that one but I'll tell my wife what you advised. Oh, congradulations to you and JenB.
Thanks. We met here on FR in '04 and got married back in September.
No I married you for the anime.
Personally, I hope to marry into music...maybe musical instruments, too.
Lots of acoustic guitars, mebbe.
And books. Can't ever have too many of those.
However, arguing with crazy people will make you insane. A Tom Sowell thread yesterday talked about what he called "the Bar of Reason."
In an era when our media and even our education system exalt emotions, while ignoring facts and logic, perhaps we should not be surprised that so many people explain economics by "greed."
Then...more about money...
Many observers who say that they cannot understand how anyone can be worth $100 million a year do not realize that it is not necessary that they understand it, since it is not their money...
All this to get to the payoff...
The idea that everything must "justify itself before the bar of reason" goes back at least as far as the 18th century. But that just makes it a candidate for the longest-running fallacy in the world.
Given the high degree of specialization in a modern economy, demanding that everything "justify itself before the bar of reason" means demanding that people who know what they are doing must be subject to the veto of people who don't have a clue about the decisions that they are second-guessing.
It means demanding that ignorance override knowledge.
IOW, you can't reason with unreasonable people. This shows up on gasoline threads as the guy who says, "If oil dropped $3/barrel in the last month, why haven't prices at the station down the street moved? It's GREED!!!
It shows up on threads such as this...browse the thread and take your pick. It's becoming the rule, rather than the exception, on FR; it describes most of what passes as political and intellectual discussion today.
It doesn't matter to me whether some "get it," or not. They are not my intended audience. I'm aiming at guys...guys who are not married, guys who continue to be more and more responsible in their relationships, and wonder why as they are more responsible, the relationship gets worse...I'm aiming at women of good faith, such as Rosie, who are as frustrated at what they see as we are.
I'm recommending that they look out for their own interests, and not allow their judgment to be "vetoed" by those who are ignorant by circumstance or design. The societal and legal changes of the past 40 years have been poisonous for men and for families. Many choose to address this, not by attacking the unfairness that exists, but by attacking men for being insufficiently "responsible;" they are counseled to "stop whining." A better, more clear description? "Insufficiently gullible."
They are my audience; I am telling them that they should deal with, and heed counsel from, only those who show good faith in their dealings with them. Many who post here do not qualify.
GROAN........
She let him keep the dog?
If she is using the data from the previous article by Roberts she is basing her entire premise on faulty data.
Besides that, all the numbers seems to jumble together so I can not make sense out of her argument.
Not sure what your message is but it's pretty clear that whatever "don't" is meant to cover, I haven't, because I'm still single.
Are you saying:
Don't date single Mom's?
Don't bring new rules?
Don't sit in the corner and shut up?
Most men go through the courtship period with company manners, which means we avoid conflict. That time shouldn't be a matter of not rocking the boat...it should be a time of setting expectations. If she has a problem with your expectations, then you have to seriously consider if you have a future together.
She should do the same. You should (IMO) have a clear idea about what your marriage would be like before you say yes.
Men can be wimps. We shouldn't blame women for the situations we helped create. Communicate clearly! If it's not going to work, acknowledge that before the wedding...and make sure you like your spot in the order of priorities.
I hope that spoke clearly.
I have always dated women who are older than me. It's a lot of fun. I only have things in common with ladies that are over 40. They all like to have a lot of fun also.
Marriage: The RISKIEST business decision a man can make.
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