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Fla. City Plans Homeless-Only Village
WKMG TV NEWS ^ | 1-19-2007

Posted on 01/20/2007 11:32:39 AM PST by Cagey

A controversial proposal in Daytona Beach, Fla., would create a special village to house hundreds of the county's homeless people, Local 6 News has learned.

Volusia County Council members are expected to consider a plan to build the Tiger Bay Village and treatment facility for the area's 2,500 homeless community.

"Although it is only in its exploratory stages, developers for the Tiger Bay Village say it is invaluable," Local 6's Tarik Minor said.

Developer Michael Arth is proposing to build a 5,600-bed community on a 125-acre lot of rural land.

The village will provide shelter, psychiatric help and the support of neighbors.

"This is for the people who can't work and can't integrate themselves into society," Arth said. "The answer is not to build a Hooverville of tents and trailers but to make these buildings attractive enough so that if you or I would went there, we would say, 'Wow, I'd live there.'"

Critics worry that the Tiger Bay Village will only promote homelessness and that the population will relocate to rural areas.

Arth said homeless people are costing taxpayers millions of dollars every year.

He said building a village is better than putting Band-Aids on the problem.

"I would go to the village to get out of the weather and the cold," homeless man Daniel Hector said.


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1 posted on 01/20/2007 11:32:42 AM PST by Cagey
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unless they have package stores with beer and liquor, none are going to stay there long


2 posted on 01/20/2007 11:36:16 AM PST by moonman (`)
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That'll help property values in the neighborhood. /sarc


3 posted on 01/20/2007 11:36:43 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
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To: Cagey
Developer Michael Arth is proposing to build a 5,600-bed community on a 125-acre lot of rural land. The village will provide shelter, psychiatric help and the support of neighbors.

I somehow feel that the neighbors of this are far from supportive of the measure. A 5600 bed homeless community next door? Sure...
4 posted on 01/20/2007 11:37:30 AM PST by kinoxi
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Developer Michael Arth is proposing to build a 5,600-bed community on a 125-acre lot of rural land.

What makes him think that they'll want to stay there?

5 posted on 01/20/2007 11:37:56 AM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: moonman

Who gets the crack cocaine concession? Is it still up for grabs?


6 posted on 01/20/2007 11:38:34 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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...make these buildings attractive enough so that if you or I would went there, we would say, 'Wow, I'd live there.'"

Like this clown, Arth, would really live there.

7 posted on 01/20/2007 11:39:34 AM PST by Cagey
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"if you or I would went there, we would say, 'Wow, I'd live there'"

Where can I sign up? Imagine ... free housing, food and medical care. It is a 'Big Wow'!

8 posted on 01/20/2007 11:39:49 AM PST by moonman (`)
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sounds like a business opportunity to me LOL


9 posted on 01/20/2007 11:40:47 AM PST by moonman (`)
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To: Cagey

Take a look here about Dignity Village in Portland, Oregon --


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/02/27/portland.homeless.ap/index.html

http://www.outofthedoorways.org/

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/318134.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Tafari


Regards,
Star Traveler


10 posted on 01/20/2007 11:42:40 AM PST by Star Traveler
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Oh this ought to REALLY increase neighborhood property values! /sarc


11 posted on 01/20/2007 11:43:50 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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12 posted on 01/20/2007 11:44:32 AM PST by meg88
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...a 5,600-bed community on a 125-acre lot of rural land.

But no homes.

13 posted on 01/20/2007 11:45:05 AM PST by decimon
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make these buildings attractive enough so that if you or I would went there, we would say, 'Wow, I'd live there.'

As a taxpayer, I'm obviously on the wrong end of this.

14 posted on 01/20/2007 11:45:37 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Star Traveler

Dignity Village. It does have a catchy name.

16 posted on 01/20/2007 11:48:25 AM PST by Cagey
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To: meg88

If I seen a guy holding that sign, I'd probably give him a buck.


17 posted on 01/20/2007 11:50:42 AM PST by moonman (`)
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To: Cagey
If the city can figure a way to make a few bucks doing Pay-Per-View broadcasts of the drunken Bum Fights, this could be a win/win for everyone.
18 posted on 01/20/2007 12:07:51 PM PST by ExSafecracker (Hillary wants to be communist dictator for life.....not President!)
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That Portland Indy Media website is very scary. It is hard to believe there are that many ignorant people in the world. Have you read it?

God help us! Please!!


19 posted on 01/20/2007 12:09:25 PM PST by Albert Barr
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You asked -- "That Portland Indy Media website is very scary. It is hard to believe there are that many ignorant people in the world. Have you read it?"

No, not really. I was only looking for sites referring to Dignity Village and I listed some of the first ones I saw.

I do remember Dignity Village being in NW Portland a few years ago. I believe it was under the Freemont Bridge (I-405). And they were in the process of moving at that time. So, when I saw the article for this thread, I thought I would throw in the stuff about Dignity Village.

There are too many liberal papers around there for me to keep up on. AND, another thing is that Portland has one of the highest rates of "Internet adoption" for a town of its size. At least that was true a few years back. They have wide-spread Internet penetration. And *also* the homeless regularly gather at various libraries around town to keep up on Internet stuff. So, I'm sure they are *very well connected* this way.

I believe that it's the *Internet* which has contributed mightly to their political activism. It allows the "word" to get out instantly for any kind of advocacy, and they use it quite well in Portland, I think.

Of course, the Internet is politically blind -- and so, we have Free Republic. Likewise the other side has their capabilities, too.

So, the long answer to your question is no..., I have no idea what's in that paper -- and I didn't want to particularly wade through it. However, it might be "instructive" for those who are curious.

Regards,
Star Traveler


20 posted on 01/20/2007 12:20:01 PM PST by Star Traveler
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