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Snow: Immigration laws not enforced: Presidential spokesman admits problems are obvious
WorldNetDaily ^ | January 17, 2007 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 01/16/2007 11:08:53 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

The United States immigration laws have not been enforced and the resulting problems are obvious, according to a White House spokesman.

Tony Snow was responding to a WND question about the status of that enforcement, since there are estimates of 20 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. now, with border enforcement in a questionable state as two former U.S. Border Patrol agents are being sent to prison for shooting at a fleeing drug dealer, National Guard troops are being forced to retreat in the face of armed incursions, and other similar situations.

"With regard to your statement, 'border guards must obey the law, too,' question, now how have so many millions of illegal aliens been able to enter our country if the president and his predecessor were seriously enforcing border and immigration laws?" asked Les Kinsolving, WND's correspondent at the White House.

"Well, obviously there was a point where, in fact, it was not enforced seriously," Snow answered. "That's why the president has committed more resources than anybody in history and has made further commitments about border security in the future, not only in terms of personnel, but also technology, and has made a – and, furthermore, has been far more aggressive than anybody … in terms of what we call interior enforcement, going after employers in a way that nobody else has done…"

Snow continued that the message to employers is: "If you're hiring illegals and you're doing it all – if you're hiring illegals, we're going after you, and especially if you're doing it in a way that you have people who are here illegally who are also taking jobs that Americans might want to have," "Snow said.

The reference to border agents obeying the law was to Snow's response several days ago, when Snow told WND that those lobbying for a presidential pardon or other intervention from the government on behalf of two former agents sentenced to prison should review the evidence.

"They (agents Jose Alonso Compean, 28, and Ignacio Ramos, 37) eventually went before a … jury – and were convicted on 11 of 12 counts, by a U.S. attorney who has prosecuted any number of cases. But the facts of this case are such that I would invite everybody to take a full look at the documented record," Snow said.

"This is not the case of the United States saying, we are not going to support people who go after drug dealers. Of course we are. We think it's incumbent to go after drug dealers, and we also think that it's vitally important to make sure that we provide border security so our people are secure," he continued.

In the past he's deflected questions about the president enforcing the laws that the U.S. already has to secure its borders and deport illegals who break the law to enter the United States.

Snow said the White House believes "that the people who are working to secure that border themselves obey the law. And in a court of law, these two agents were convicted on 11 of 12 counts by a jury of their peers after a lengthy trial at which they did have the opportunity to make their case," he said.

He said questions about the fact that the government brought the man back from Mexico and gave him immunity on charges – including a subsequent attempt to bring drugs into the United States – to testify against the agents would have to be answered by a lawyer.

Snow followed up after the press briefing by faxing 12 pages of comment about the case of the border guards, including the statement from U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, as well as a guest column he wrote for the El Paso Times in October.

"Agents Compean and Ramos were not railroaded by some over-zealous prosecutor, they were unanimously found guilty by a jury in a United States federal district court after a trial that lasted more than 2 ½ weeks," he wrote in the newspaper. "The problem for Mr. Compean and Mr. Ramos is that the jury did not believe their stories because they were not true."

"In America," he wrote, "law-enforcement officers do not get to shoot unarmed suspects who are running away, lie about it to their supervisors and file official reports that are false. That is a crime and prosecutors cannot look the other way."

Snow also faxed a six-page analysis of the case, with a list of unsigned myth-fact comparison statements.

Congress has approved, and Bush has signed, a law setting up a construction plan for a border fence between the U.S. and Mexico, but it still awaits funding for the work. And federal agents recently did carry out a sting on a meat-packing company, in which about 1,000 workers who were illegal were arrested.

But a report several years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks concluded that immigration enforcement by that point actually had become more lax since the tragedies in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

That report from the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies concluded that there was a 13 percent increase of U.S. immigrants, more than f our million, between 2000 and the date of the report in 2004.

The center said at that point there were about 34 million immigrants in the country, both legal and illegal, but a disturbing trend was that fully half of the newcomers were illegal.

Kinsolving followed up with a question: "Why do you believe the primary problem with the border and immigration policy has not been the result of non-enforcement of existing laws largely by the executive branch of the government?"

Snow said that although there have been millions of illegals arriving in the United States, the president has acknowledged that and tried to deal with it. "And as far as we can tell, that they'd indicate that that flow has, in fact, ebbed substantially but not sufficiently in recent months in response to things we have been doing."

There are estimates ranging to about 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States, mostly from Mexico, and they have been tracked to trouble. As WND has reported, federal agents recently ran a sting that netted the arrests of 9,000 sex offenders, many of them foreign nationals.

Estimates also show that probably 12 people a day die as a result of crimes and/or accidents involving illegal immigrants.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; immigrantlist
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To: Tony Snow
and, furthermore, has been far more aggressive than anybody … in terms of what we call interior enforcement, going after employers in a way that nobody else has done…"

I call BS.

21 posted on 01/17/2007 6:44:04 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Mr. Mojo; gubamyster

Another "Snow Job" regarding illegals & the failure of the Bush administration to ENFORCE THE LAW!


while TWO BP AGENTS GO TO PRISON FOR DOING THEIR JOBS!

gezzzzzzzz...go figure!


22 posted on 01/17/2007 6:57:47 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
The numbers sure are funny.
As other posters pointed out...last year official "estimates" were 12 million illegals residing inside our borders. Just 6 months ago I was chided for suggesting there were 16 million inside our borders... now goobermint "estimates" there are 20 million...and admit that up to 10 million strolled across our borders in the last 12 months.
100 feet from me (in another business) are three illegals that assure me they can cross the border at will....as many times as they please per month (provided they have the cash). I've made a few calls to the "authorities" and no one cares.

Imagine for one moment a terrorist wanting to gain access into our country. Imagine how easy it would be.

Now how am I supposed to believe that we have any degree of "homeland security"....when three peons can cross the southern border at will, as many times as they can afford?
They have no problem making this trip across our southern borders 4 or 5 times a year. I even got the details on how they evade thermal imaging.

If the Republicans think they're hurting now....well, they're in for a rude awakening WHEN we get attacked again.

There is simply no excuse for NOT making an ALL OUT effort to secure our borders between legal crossings.

Simply stated, GWB inherited this massive problem. What also must be admitted is that he (as well as the Republicans who have been "in charge" for the last 6 years) has not a shred of credibility on this issue. They've had a mandate to secure the borders after 911. Yet still, Jose' Hose-B and Hose-c can still stroll across at will.

When you combine these facts with the data in this post

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1767956/posts

you can begin to see what the average taxpayer is up against.

We're being bled dry. There is no accountability. We do not have anyone representing us (the taxpayer) in this debacle. These last 6 years have been a massive squandered opportunity to set things right. Add to this the fact that GWB wants to make these 20 million illegals "legal"....and you've relegated the Republican party to be bench warmers for the foreseeable future.

When the "totalization" bill gets signed into law.... the taxpayers will be fisted one more time by our "leaders".

It never ends......

The first person to grab the bull by the horns, report the situation truthfully to the American people, outline a strict policy to implement it, by "Executive Order" if need be, will be the next three term POTUS.

Having these porous borders is a bitch slap to every service person overseas....fighting to "kill terrorists"....and all the while our back door is wide open for any yahoo and his / her accomplice to stroll in and do what ever they want....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1768299/posts

G_D help us if no one steps up to the plate to secure our borders....that is the primary "job" of the Fed Gov and they've failed miserably.
23 posted on 01/17/2007 7:06:21 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

HMMMMM! Pres. Bush admits to failures in Iraq.......We get a troop surge.


Pres. Bush (by proxy) admits failures on border control...... We get..........crickets..............???


24 posted on 01/17/2007 9:55:40 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Estimates also show that probably 12 people a day die as a result of crimes and/or accidents involving illegal immigrants.

President Bush could care less about those 12 people a day who die as a result of crimes and accidents committed by illegals. That's over 360 Americans a month. Give or take a few 'irrelevant' Americans! I do not believe now, nor will I EVER believe that President Bush gives a tinker's damn about those people! IF he did, he would have slammed the borders shut after 9-11, but no, turning America into a third world hell hole with "free trade" is more important to him than any of us are!

25 posted on 01/17/2007 10:25:46 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: taxed2death

>> Imagine for one moment a terrorist wanting to gain access into our country. Imagine how easy it would be.<<

I think of that scenario often, because it is very likely.

What will this President say after hundreds or thousands of innocent Americans are murdered on his watch, due to his willful negligence and failure to do his job?

He will of course, have no good answer to give.


26 posted on 01/17/2007 10:26:15 AM PST by SerpentDove (It's not rocket surgery.)
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To: SerpentDove

Even after a terrorist sneaks in through Mexico with a dirty nuke and sets it off, our goobermint will only be serious about it for a few months. Then it will be back to business as usual.


27 posted on 01/17/2007 10:35:44 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: NRA2BFree

The total is around 25 per day from accidents and murder.


28 posted on 01/17/2007 5:01:02 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Note that the HSC report is now, not suprisingly, erased from cyberspace.

FYI, I came across that report a couple days ago

A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border (PDF - 4.42MB)

PREPARED BY THE MAJORITY STAFF OF THE HOUSE
COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS
MICHAEL T. McCAUL, Chairman

29 posted on 01/22/2007 11:32:52 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks a bunch, calcowgirl. It'll come in handy.


30 posted on 01/22/2007 11:35:51 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: technomage

I couple of years ago I read that there were 900K illegals that are grauduating from High School every year (don't remember the article or where the statistics came from). If that figure is correct then there is likely to be over 12 million illegals in our public schools in grades K-12 (900K for each grade).

It should be presumed then that all these students have parents who are also here illegally. Assuming that half of these children are siblings who have two parents, then that would make another 12 million illegal mothers and fathers of illegal public school children. Now the figure is 24 million illegal aliens in the country without even adding in all the ones who don't have their illegal kids in public schools.

Therefore, if we add everyone else into the equation, I would bet money there are over 30 million illegals in the country. Now, some statistician could poke holes in the way I came up with the this number but I'll bet it is far closer to the real number then the federal government is giving us.


31 posted on 02/10/2007 10:06:37 AM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: Mr. Mojo

Whatever the number, it is an invasion. And the large number of illegal aliens calls for extensive deportations - this can be accomplished readily by both direct and indirect means. President Eisenhower did it, and we can do it now.


32 posted on 02/10/2007 10:11:39 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Whatever the number, it is an invasion. And the large number of illegal aliens calls for extensive deportations - this can be accomplished readily by both direct and indirect means. President Eisenhower did it, and we can do it now.

Bump!

33 posted on 05/31/2007 5:39:34 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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