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Mo. boy apparently had computer access
The Fresno Bee ^ | January 15, 2007 | JIM SALTER

Posted on 01/15/2007 2:37:16 PM PST by Enterprise

KIRKWOOD, Mo. (AP) - While his alleged kidnapper was away at work, teenager Shawn Hornbeck apparently had access to a computer, and may have put photos of himself online and posted a chilling message on a site created by his own desperate parents: "How long are you planning to look for your son?"

A series of Web postings under the name "Shawn Devlin" - Devlin is the last name of the man suspected of kidnapping Shawn and posing as his father - came to light after Shawn's rescue from an apartment in Kirkwood last week.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: devlin; hornbeck; kidnap
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To: Kimmers

Life time suicide watch if he does not turn to G~d.


61 posted on 01/15/2007 3:24:44 PM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.)
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To: Global2010

than we must pray for him.


62 posted on 01/15/2007 3:25:35 PM PST by Halls (i love my boys!)
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To: Hildy

I can think of nothing good to say about people want to blame the victim (who was a little 11 year old boy in 5th grade ) & he was tormented by a 300 child porn skumbag !


63 posted on 01/15/2007 3:26:04 PM PST by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom

Amen sister.


64 posted on 01/15/2007 3:27:54 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: Enterprise
This has happened before, (see Stephen Stayner) almost identical. Stayner was abducted in 1972 I think he was 7, went to school, was able to leave the house, etc. for seven years but never went to the police out of fear from his abductor. Finally his kidnapper (Kenneth Parnell) wanted a younger kid so he kidnapped another kid, 5-year-old Timmy White . When Stayner came home and found White there he decided to help him escape before he could be molested. They made to the police where Stayner told them he "thinks his name is Stephen", and that his "dad" kidnapped this kid.

Stayner was re-united with his family and was given the reward for rescuing White.

The case against Parnell was stronger for Stayner's kidnapping so he spent the next several years having to re-live his kidnapping in court and it about drove him crazy. He attempted suicide several times until he met a wonderful girl who he married and had two children with. Sadly, Stephen was killed a few years later by a hit and run drunk driver.

Even odder, Stephen's younger brother Cray grew up to be a serial killer (see Yosemite killer Cary Stayner)

65 posted on 01/15/2007 3:28:19 PM PST by txroadkill (My post may be dumb, but I was named Time Mag's Person of the Year)
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To: Global2010

Oh, please.


66 posted on 01/15/2007 3:28:34 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: Lizarde

mail back at you


67 posted on 01/15/2007 3:31:05 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: Hildy

You are right on target....


68 posted on 01/15/2007 3:31:58 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: DvdMom
Also Devlin had tons of child porn on his computer & Shawn probably was forced to do gay crap & Devlin probably posted Shawn doing alot of sick crap !

1) Blackmailed?

2) He's into child-porn and kidnapped a second boy?

3) Nobody's mentioned illegal drugs. This could have started with the "date-rape-drug"—perhaps forced at gunpoint; then, continued their false-imprisonment with some other addictive drug.

4) Yup. Let's legalize drugs.

/s

69 posted on 01/15/2007 3:33:03 PM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I have no idea if it happened this way but from what I do know about abuse, I will speculate. You're 11 years old, snatched off the street taken to an apartment by a stranger, maybe drugged and abused repeatedly by this man. Maybe at first you fought but then relented because you are a child and not strong enough to fight. Once the fighting stops the pervert starts telling you, you can't go home now, you're gay, your parents are going to be ashamed of you and hate you. Your friends will make fun of you because everyone will find out what we did and I'll tell everyone you liked it. If you stay with me we'll keep it secret, nobody will ever know.

The fear and humiliation associated with such an attack would make a child just submit. I know of two families that were shattered by horrendous abuse. The things that the abuser told the children were so twisted, yet simple and one had to wonder why these children believed the lies. When dealing with a predator you are dealing with a sociopath who is cunning and a master manipulator, thats why they usually get away with it as long as they do.

As another poster pointed out, hopefully there weren't any other victims BEFORE Shawn. I'd be checking that propery he owns with cadaver dogs.


70 posted on 01/15/2007 3:36:07 PM PST by panthermom
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To: 1rudeboy

still a powerful video...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGjDX6laf54


72 posted on 01/15/2007 3:39:12 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: Enterprise; colorado tanker
may have put photos of himself online and posted a chilling message on a site created by his own desperate parents:

The authorities could have traced the IP address
73 posted on 01/15/2007 3:41:14 PM PST by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: Eclectica

Yes Devlin the kidnapper was found to have tons of child porn on his computer . You can find the link on Drudge .

Yes , Devlin is into child porn & kidnapped a 2nd boy .

Shawn was probalby getting to older for the sick bastard !

Neighbors near Devlin's apt reported hearing horrible screams & etc...

Devlin was either raping or beating , or doing both...

On the courtv posters board under Amber Alerts " A Poster Claims that young Ben was in CHAINS when he WAS FOUND IN Devlin's Apt !!!!!"


74 posted on 01/15/2007 3:41:49 PM PST by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: Just sayin

No, there are not that many kidnappings. Very few. Almost all kidnappings are from broken families, where the spouse without custody takes the kid.


75 posted on 01/15/2007 3:43:51 PM PST by Dave W
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To: mystery-ak

You tube is addicting ..... I was watching 80's videos for 3 hours last night . LOL


76 posted on 01/15/2007 3:43:52 PM PST by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: Enterprise

Seems like they are going to have difficulty proving any kind of crime as to which consent would be a defense.


77 posted on 01/15/2007 3:46:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Enterprise

I don't care what anyone says about the boy not using seeming opportunities to escape or get help. They have no idea what sort of private hell he most likely was going through. Children are very malleable by those who know what to say. He might very well have given up hope.
Like someone said in an email to John Gibson's Your Word- everyone's talking about why didn't the boy ask the cop for help- why didn't the cop recognize the boy??


78 posted on 01/15/2007 3:47:17 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Hildy

Well said.


79 posted on 01/15/2007 3:48:43 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: visualops

opied this from a post on the court tv. It gives real insight from Steven STaynor. Very interesting.
this was important to post even in full under the circumstances.
This is Stevens Legacy and while all of it does not match with Shawn enough of it does that we need to pay attention..

http://www.stevenstaynermemorial.org/Steven's%20Legacy.htm

The Steven Stayner and Missing Children's Memorial


After returning home, Steven Stayner shared his insights into finding abducted children:

"When it comes to finding abducted children, most people think of posters and milk cartons. Photographs are very important in finding abducted children. But to depend on pictures alone is a big mistake.

"That is because the pictures may not reach the isolated areas where abductors take children, but also because children change and abductors can easily change a child's appearance.

"I believe the single most important thing you can do to help find abducted children is to be aware of the problem and keep an eye out for suspicious 'family' situations around you.

"For starters, many abductors are men appearing as single parents, with one child. They intentionally choose to live in isolated areas and are generally not socially active.

"You should know that the first thing abductors often do is convince the child that their parents don't want them. My abductor faked phone calls to my parents. He actually told me he went to court to get legal custody. I was seven. I had nowhere else to turn. I eventually accepted the lie as reality.

"The next stage was adapting for survival. This meant doing anything to avoid punishment. I actually helped my abductor keep the secret.

"So don't expect abducted children to come up and ask for help. They're totally dependent on their abductors. And if they're being sexually abused, which is usually the case, the last thing they want is to draw attention to it.

"I trusted no one. My greatest fear was that someone would find out the truth and confront my 'father'. I didn't know what he'd do. As bad as things were, I knew it could get worse.

"To survive, abducted children must learn to lie. When people would ask me about my past, I made it up. I now assume people knew I was lying, but no one ever tried to find out why.

"Throughout the seven years, we were constantly moving. We lived in five different towns, in a dozen houses and trailer homes. The minute my abductor felt people were getting too close, we'd pack up. That kind of movement is typical of abductions. So is a child who's not enrolled in school.

"My abductor was careful and made sure I was always enrolled. If people paid attention to my relationship with my 'father' there were clues that something was wrong. It was not a normal father-son relationship. And among other things, at 13, I was taller than, and looked nothing like, my 'father'.

"You should know that most abductors are pedophiles, not psychotic killers. They don't have good relationships with adults. They start out molesting children and graduate to longer abductions. And when they murder children, often it's to get rid of the evidence.

"As is often the case, there were people involved with my abductor who knew the truth. These people could have saved me at any time, but were afraid of legal trouble. You should know that in other cases where people have come forward to save a child, they have not been prosecuted. These people often hold the power of life and death.

"Before I was grabbed, my abductor had been convicted of child molesting. Throughout my abduction, he never stopped molesting other children. Even so, after taking me from my home, abusing me for seven years and abducting another 5-year old, he served only three and one-half years in jail.

"Today, no one knows how many missing children are dead or how many now live as I did. But if you're going to help, you have to be aware of the real nature of stranger abduction and be committed to helping children. While it may be hard for you to tell an abducted child from an abused child, it's not hard to tell a child in trouble. And it's not hard to do something about it. If you know of, or suspect, there's a situation where a child is in trouble, please call the police."

Help find missing children

Many abducted children have been returned because people have recognized a face from a poster. So please, when you see a picture of a missing child on a poster, in a magazine or on a postcard, take the time to see if you recognize that child.

Unfortunately, abductors take steps to change a child's appearance. Children change over time and there are so many faces to remember.

If you are aware of behaviors, and you know what to look for, there are many clues that can actually be even more effective in helping you spot an abducted child. Because many abducted children are told by their abductors that their parents don't want them, abducted children feel dependent on their abductors for survival. They almost live in fear of being "found out".

Possible signs of an abducted child

and what to look for


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Incomplete or unforwarded school records.
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No birth certificate.
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No verification of immunization shots and missing medical and dental records.
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The child seems withdrawn or neglected.
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The child seems fearful of parent(s) or guardian(s).
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The child has behavioral or academic problems. They may lie frequently trying to cover up the truth about their life.
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Attendance at school is often sporadic. They don't take part in any after-school activities.
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There seems to be inconsistencies in names, dates of birth, addresses and past events.
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Attendance at many different schools.
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Reluctance to give school personnel any personal or family information.
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Sometimes they're confused about their real name and don't seem to trust anyone.
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The child seems fearful of law enforcement.
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The child may not remember the other parent.
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The other parent may be listed as deceased or unknown or not listed at all on emergency information documents.
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The "parent" may be overprotective and keeps very close tabs on the child's activities, friends and comments.
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The child may have dyed hair or has other appearance modifications.
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You should be sensitive to any "family" situation that doesn't feel right. The most common non-family abductor relationship is a single child with a single man who is passing as the "father" or "grandfather".
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Abductors and their victims generally move around a lot to keep from being found out. As a result, abducted children live a transient life, often living in out-of-the-way cabins and trailer parks. With little sense of stability, they don't make friends or fit in easily.
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The child may not wear properly fitting clothes.
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The child is reluctant to talk about where they lived in the past.
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The child never invites friends to their home.

Trust your instincts. If you see a situation that seems suspicious, call your local law enforcement.



1,138 posted on 01/14/2007 1:30:32 PM PST by mel
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To: mel
i read this as well. Not all of it is similar to Shawn Hornbeck, but a lot of it is! My word, very similar. The single man with one child(boy)is something I think we should all pay attn to. I bet more of this goes on and people have actually got away with this before with this very thing happening.

I can't believe that Delvin could think he could just get away with this. Sad thing, he did for 4 years!



1,139 posted on 01/14/2007 1:40:47 PM PST by Halls (My parents raised me RIGHT!)
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To: mel


80 posted on 01/15/2007 3:49:37 PM PST by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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