Posted on 01/12/2007 2:39:17 PM PST by cgk
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surely has something already cooked up with his "not guilty" plead to Ben Ownby's kidnapping.
sure HE has
I would hope that Fox would have run this info past the Akers before airing it. Even if true, wouldn't they tell the family out of respect before they reveal this type of story?
He cannot possibly explain away Ben's kidnapping AS WELL AS Sean's kidnapping by concocting bits and pieces of partially true, distorted stories and make it all fit to make HIM a fine, upstanding citizen who just happened to be caught with two missing young boys in his apt. (that even his own family and his employer of 25 years knew nothing about. These same people now realize he was leading a double life.)
I'm wondering if part of his defense will be that he was abused as a young child. He was adopted. He could either claim abuse by somebody from his original family or from the family who adopted him. Also could claim some sort of psychological disorder.
Did you note that the Devlin family statement said they were glad Shawn and Ben were safe, and when everything comes out they hope Michael WILL BE SAFE, TOO. I make something of that. Sounds like an "I'm a victim, too" defense is in the offing. But I admit it's a shot in the dark guess. Who knows what they will try?
I actually care nothing about that side of this case. I feel the same as I did in the Scott Peterson case. It was Lacy's side I cared about. Period.
What respect? I'm not putting down what you wrote, I'm just mad at them.
I'm off to bed. I hope they get what's coming to them for what they have done.
They are despicable for bringing this up IF it is Shawn's father. (With those dates they are throwing around, who knows?) But we should remember that sodomy can be committed against a girl or a boy, so I don't think they are necessarily implying that Shawn was the victim.
Devlin's Attorneys Seek To Limit Access To Their Client
Created: 1/20/2007 7:55:18 PM
Last updated: 1/20/2007 7:56:04 PM
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=111199
Also interesting is this quote from the article:
Shawn passed himself off as "Shawn Devlin" to neighbors and friends, authorities have said. He also told people who asked why he didn't attend school that he was being home-schooled.
Did anyone else groan at this? I was waiting for homeschooling to come up. That's all we need - is for people to clamp down on homeschooling because "it might be hiding kidnapped children."
Please add me to your Shawn Hornbeck/Ben Ownby ping list - thanks.
Why even bring it up and say it is a bombshell and dark secret if they were not trying to put into peoples minds that Shawn may have possibly been his fathers victim.
It has nothing to do with Shawn's kidnapping, flat out nothing - it is not a bombshell. His father was dead 2 years before Shawn was even kidnapped.
I am not trying to argue with you personally - there is just no logic in why they did this unless it was to put the thought into the viewer's mind that Shawn may have been his father's victim. Trust me there are people out there that will run with this and say, "Well maybe Shawn wanted to be with Devlin because Devlin was "really" like Shawn's real father and that Shawn wanted the sex that Devlin was offering to him."
Trust me there are people out there that are only going to see Shawn as a pervert (and not a victim or child) and that due to what has happened to him he will himself become a child predator and he will be a threat to society. All because these people think he stayed with Devlin because he liked what Devlin was doing to him.
I think the interest in this case is so high that they are throwing out any little tidbit they can dig up. But the reporter saying that the original arrest was for rape and then the charge was changed to attempted sodomy leads me to believe it's more likely the victim was a girl. But I'm not an expert on how the various terms are usually used in criminal court.
One more thing...
These morons that think Shawn wanted to be with Devlin will also take the Fox/NY Post report as:
Well look Shawn's real father was a pervert, so Shawn was bound to be one also and that is why he stayed with Devlin. Because he liked it.
There are many small minded people on this earth and there are a few on FR that have clearly blamed this child. They don't care that he is a child and they don't see Shawn as a victim.
What FOX did was uncalled for. All they did was hurt Shawn more even if Shawn was not his father's victim. Do you think that Shawn wanted the public to know about his father?
It just adds more to what this child is dealing with and he is under the microscope now and none of it is his fault but you have kid that is probably beating himself up inside because he didn't try hard enough (in his mind) to get help while his captor had him.
I am not venting on you and I am just venting because I am so pissed off at how the media does not think about what they are doing or saying. This is a child and he is an abused child (at the hands of his captor). Shame on them - when are they going to draw the line?
Sorry for venting but I am really frustrated about how everything has been going down in the media when it comes to this case.
I agree with you completely that there are idiots out there who will use this to continue to blame Shawn and that the media has been way over the line in how they have treated Shawn and the Akers. I hope and pray that his parents are media savvy enough that they are able to shield him from most of this garbage. Shame on Fox and the NY Post and the others who are bringing more heartache on this family!
Feel free to vent away!
Sodomy is a term of religious origin to characterise certain sexual non-procreative acts. Most commonly used to describe the specific act of anal sex both between heterosexuals and homosexuals, the term "sodomy" also may include non-coital sexual acts such as oral sex and other paraphilia. Laws forbidding certain types of sex acts have been found in some pre-modern cultures.
Attempted Rape or Assault with Intent to Rape
When there is no sexual penetration, there is no rape; but there may be attempted rape or an assault with an intent to rape. Unlike rape, attempt or assault with intent are what the law calls "specific intent" crimes. This means that in order to find an accused guilty, the prosecutor must show the accused intended to have intercourse by force or threat of injury and against the will of the victim. Even if the accused unreasonably believes the victim is consenting, the accused does not have the intent necessary for the crime.
Statutory Definitions
Rape is an act of sexual intercourse carried out:
"against a person's will by means of force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful bodily injury on the person or another."
where the victim is unable to resist because of an intoxicating, narcotic, or anesthetic substance that the accused has responsibility for administering.
where the victim is unconscious of the nature of the act and the perpetrator knows it.
where the victim believes, due to the perpetrator's intentional deceptive acts, that the perpetrator is her spouse.
where the perpetrator threatens to retaliate against the victim or any other person, and there is a reasonable possibility the perpetrator will execute the threat -- "threatens to retaliate" means threatens to kidnap, imprison, inflict extreme pain, serious bodily injury, or death.
where the victim is incapable of giving consent, and the perpetrator reasonably should know this.
where the perpetrator threatens to use public authority to imprison, arrest, or deport the victim or another, and the victim reasonably believes the perpetrator is a public official.
This has some informative info
It all depends on the laws in the state where the offense took place
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape
I wonder what he means by "smokes six Ax's a day"?
Grim Reapers normally have a ax's (axe's) and the poem is titled "Death"
actually the grim reaper carries a sickle...
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