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U.S. Muslim Writer Agitates for Citizens to Disarm -- JPFO Fires Back
JPFO ^ | 1/8/07 | The Liberty Crew

Posted on 01/10/2007 8:24:49 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Another “think tank,” this one called the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding (ISPU), has come out for total civilian disarmament and repeal of the Second Amendment.

What’s new about that? ISPU is openly pro-Muslim, and the ISPU writer is a criminal defense attorney who argues for repealing parts of the Bill of Rights.

You can read the whole article, entitled “In the Fight Against Terrorism, Some Rights Must Be Repealed,” by Junaid Afeef, on the ISPU website:

http://www.ispu.us/pages/articles/2914/articleDetailPB.html

A JPFO supporter sent us the link, and we did read the article, looking for:

a. Inaccurate “facts” b. Missing data and support for factual claims c. Tricks in shifting the context or changing the subject d. Statements of opinion presented as though they were unquestionable facts e. Insults, innuendoes and smears f. Key facts or considerations that are totally ignored g. Logic errors

We found many errors, fallacies, propaganda tricks, and an outright lie or two. When you read the piece, see how many you can find.

Or – you can go directly to our analysis and response to the article, entitled “A Muslim Writer Tells America: Drop Your Guns and Give Up" at www.jpfo.org/dropguns.pdf

We take the ISPU article apart, paragraph by paragraph. Some of the points may be familiar to you, but there are a few new twists.

Do we expect to convince ISPU or Mr. Afeef of the errors of their position? Not really. We are publishing a response so that gun owners and rights supporters can keep their intellectual guns polished and powder dry.

The enemies of the Bill of Rights come in all flavors. We can never rest, thinking that we have answered all of their challenges.

Let us know what you think after reading our response.

The Liberty Crew


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1 posted on 01/10/2007 8:24:51 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Gosh, wonder why the Muslims want us to give up our guns?


2 posted on 01/10/2007 8:30:20 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Repeal the koran.


3 posted on 01/10/2007 8:32:22 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Are they going to give up theirs and the swords/knives they behead people with?
4 posted on 01/10/2007 8:38:02 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Well he's welcome to personally come and try to take mine.


5 posted on 01/10/2007 8:40:05 AM PST by kracker
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To: 3AngelaD
Gosh, wonder why the Muslims want us to give up our guns?

Hmmm....Muslims have figured out that it is hard to get behind and cut the heads off of our women and children if the household is armed and resisting.

Thanks for the post...gonna make me buy a case of ammo.

6 posted on 01/10/2007 8:40:44 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Wholly crap.


7 posted on 01/10/2007 8:41:31 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

This makes me want to go out to the next gun show and buy another AK-47 type rifle with another case of ammo.


8 posted on 01/10/2007 8:42:06 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Un-be-flipping-lievable!
The people who want us to die so that they can take over the USA and make it into a religious-based dictatorship want to take guns away from us!
Reason to join the NRA if you don't already belong.


9 posted on 01/10/2007 8:43:19 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: 3AngelaD

I e-mailed this clown 2 days ago, I broke down every point in his article from the opposing view point. I have not recieved a reply as of yet. If he ever does answer I will post the reply on this thread.


10 posted on 01/10/2007 8:44:05 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: A. Patriot; DCBryan1
This makes me want to go out to the next gun show and buy another AK-47 type rifle with another case of ammo.

Hurry my FRiends! The libs are coming! BLOAT (by lots of ammo today) while it's cheaper by the brick. WWIII may involve shooting more than we had imagined.
11 posted on 01/10/2007 8:46:40 AM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: sean327

This is what I sent him (and I only hope the FBI is keeping an eye on him(:

"If you do not like the 2nd Amendment, and other parts of the OUR Constitution, I think you should immediately return to your ancestral hell hole and stay there, and see how many Constitutional rights you enjoy in that God-forsaken place, where ever it is. If you don't like the way we do things here, leave. You and your people and your religion SCREWED UP YOUR COUNTRY and now you are here trying to screw up mine. I am not the only person who wishes you would all leave America. At some point we will reach critical mass. That's why you don't want us to have guns."


12 posted on 01/10/2007 8:46:53 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Call me a bigot, but I am not inclined to ask for or accept advice from a Muslim, U.S. or otherwise, on constitutional issues or on how to wage the WOT. And anyone who uses the expression "disarm the citizenry" is automatically suspect. The problem is that this idea would be accepted enthusiastically by the gun-grabbers, some of them high government officials.


13 posted on 01/10/2007 8:50:48 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Joe Brower; USF; Fred Nerks; Just A Nobody; vince2285; backtothestreets; ...
Hand over your weapons...
Surrender to islam ping!
14 posted on 01/10/2007 8:57:44 AM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless our Troops and their families!)
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To: sean327

I found this on their website, but I would really like to know where the money comes from:

ISPU is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit research and educational institute. All contributions to ISPU are tax exempt. Please donate online using PayPal® by clicking above link "Contribute to ISPU" or send your donation to:

Institute for Social Policy and Understanding
43151 Dalcoma, Suite 6
ClintonTWP, Michigan 48038


15 posted on 01/10/2007 9:08:15 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: 3AngelaD

TAG 'EM.
BAG 'EM.


16 posted on 01/10/2007 9:08:49 AM PST by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: All

I think this is what they fear, even if it is couched in a joke. The joke goes like this, with variations...

There were three men sitting
on a bench, one was a Texan
wearing a cowboy hat, one was a
Muslim wearing a turban, and
the last fellow was an Apache
with a feather in his hair.

The Indian was sad and gloomy as he
said, "My people were many, but
now we are few."

The Muslim puffs up and said,
"Once my people were few, but
now we are many."

The Texan adjusts his hat, rolls
a smoke, leans back and drawls
out, "That's because we ain't
played Cowboys and Muslims yet."


It's the John Wayne archetype that the Left, and all America's enemies for that matter, despises. That 'type' has stopped the likes of Tojo and Hitler in their tracks, stymied Stalin, Brezhnev through to Gorbachov, has arrested the likes of Noriega and hung Saddam Hussein.

That's why they seek to emasculate American males by treating boyhood as ADD and imposing Ritalin on them, crippling the military and disarming the citizen.

If you wanted to face the USA, wouldn't you rather face a bunch of unarmed Elton Johns versus that of a passel o' gunslinging John Waynes, Clint Eastwoods and Charles Bronsons?


17 posted on 01/10/2007 9:09:02 AM PST by Move_Zig (For Great Justice)
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To: kiriath_jearim

It took them 7 years to get to this post 9/11

If Gore was president on 9/11 this was the FIRST thing they would have done.


18 posted on 01/10/2007 9:11:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Another “think tank,” this one called the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding (ISPU), has come out for total civilian disarmament and repeal of the Second Amendment.

What’s new about that? ISPU is openly pro-Muslim, and the ISPU writer is a criminal defense attorney who argues for repealing parts of the Bill of Rights.

Over my dead body. Too many people forget that the Bill of Rights only enumerates them it does not GRANT them subject to repeal.

19 posted on 01/10/2007 9:13:35 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Judges' orders cannot stop determined criminals. Firearms and the WILL to use them can.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Gosh, wonder why the Muslims want us to give up our guns?

Ever since the repeating firearm was invented muslims have gotten their a$$e$ kicked everywhere in the world against Christian forces.

20 posted on 01/10/2007 9:14:30 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Judges' orders cannot stop determined criminals. Firearms and the WILL to use them can.)
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