Just FYI for people who hadn't previously considered Anglican Churches -- they are a good alternative to the Episcopal Church and are typically quite conservative.
A repudiation of God and God's word is certainly consistent with gay bishops, woman priests and leftist politics.
Excellent.
Honestly, I'm surprised the WaPo published it.
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Excellent post shrinkermd, thanks so much.
wow.
It ounds like the Episcopalians are sibmitting their church to the religion of secular humansism which dominates our government, schools and society topday.
The federal government is violating the first amendment by establishing the religion of secular humanism.
It is a creed. It is doctrinal. It has a hierarchy. It has clerics. It has money. It has dedicated adherents.
It is entirely faith-based.
We must invoke the anti-establishment clause and force the Feds to stop promoting the creed of secular humanism.
Woah! a shot right between the eyes! thanks for posting it shrink.
First let me say - I am not a Christian - I am a Jew.
But, next let me say, that events like this grieve me. I don't like to see Christians who repudiate, deny, or water down their faith. I don't like to see churches in trouble, like the Catholic Church with the recent scandals.
Our civilization - our Judeo/Christian civilization - needs Christians to be strong in their faith, strong in their belief and united in their defense of that faith. We need one another.
Together, Christians and Jews, albeit with many stumbles along the way - have created a worthy civilization, a means for people to govern themselves through representative republics (often mistakenly called democracies), through self-imposed justice rather than the king's justice, and with peaceful transition of power every few years.
These are fantastic accomplishments. And, it is all being tested and threatened by an alien religious ethic that believes in none of the above. Islam preaches precisely the opposite.
Just at a time when our faith and resolve are being tested by the "other" - our own house is not strong, even crumbling. The churches of Europe are empty, the mosques are full.
To defend our house, we need strong faith.
The Roman Catholic church still believes. We may have our share of non-believers who are hanging on and the infamous cafeteria catholics, but the majority from the Pope on down do believe in the creed.
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Hear! Hear!
Ping for the Anglican Ping List . . .
Any church that makes females pastors should be abandoned because said church has abandoned the bible.
In other words, the Episcopal Church has chosen to become its own arbitor and source of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. They will find the apple bitter. This from a once-Episcopal, later Lutheran, now 12-year Catholic parishoner who finally feels like I have come home.
But the material collapse will eventually follow the moral debacle. The congregations of these places will continue to dwindle until they are forced to sell the buildings. The buildings will become "community centers" as they have in Europe and the people who have run them into the ground will live off the capital until they die.
As a cradle Episcopalian and now Catholic convert, I came to see that the Episcopal church did not have the "antibodies" to fight off the modernism that has engulfed it. Although the Catholic Church has been disrupted by modernism, it has the "antibodies" to fight it off and eventually prosper.
"Denominations with official and long-standing PRO-CHOICE positions include the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations, and Reform and Conservative Judaism.
These organizations have a diversity of views about ABORTION and recognize it as a morally complex decision that must be made by the person most affected--the woman."
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/120/story_12021_1.html
(*IMO acceptance of ABORTION in so many denominations is the worst thing of all. I left the Presbyterian Church USA because of it.)
Well, folks - blush, blush.....thanks for appreciating my comments.
Which brings me to more comments. I assume that most of you have heard of the Cross that sits on Mt. Soledad in La Jolla - San Diego, California.
A decades long battle by an athiest (recently deceased) has been waged to remove that Cross from public property. Though the athiest has died, the battle rages on.
We mounted a huge campaign to get this on the ballot and it was overwhelmingly approved by the people of this city to keep the Cross where it is. Still a judge overturned the results of the vote. Duncan Hunter (presidential candidate) and Brian Bilbray and other Republican represntatives from this area persuaded Pres. Bush to take this land as a National Monument to keep the Cross where it is - as a war memorial - which it also is.
But the other forces have not given up and the battle STILL continues - probably all the way to the Supreme Court.
What I really want to say is that you should know the huge effort in this fight to keep the Cross - was run by a Jew. No, not me - but another Jew - I had lunch with him. I, as a Jew, voted to keep this Cross on the mountain.
I am not sure where the law is about the Cross on public property - I assume the Supreme Court will someday rule on that - but I do know that if we tear down that Cross, we will next tear down the Star of David, and then the Churches and Synagoges and we'll all go down the tubes together.
But, that's not the end of it. When all our religious symbols are gone it will leave a vacuum. Nature hates a vacuum. And there is Islam waiting to fill it - as it has already done in Europe.
And when those symbols and our Houses of Worship are gone, so too will our other American institutions: self-government.
That Cross on Mt. Soledad is the symbol of the health of my beloved country. Our beloved country.
Amen!
I'm just a glutton for a flame, but I'll say it anyway. Look at the destruction homosexuals and their weak-minded enablers do.
Thank God for John Yates and TFC!