[Izzy Dunne]

Foreshadowing potential climate chaos to come, early global warming caused

Past performance is not indicative of future results.

[Wuli]

".....Average global temperatures have been rising about 0.36 of a degree Fahrenheit per decade for the last 30 years."

But have not risen further since 1998. And actually, the "average global temperatures" have been rising since before the turn of the century, before world industrialization took off. But no matter, it must have been all those logs people burned to keep warm.

[DustyMoment]

This still fails to explain why CO2 levels were higher in the first half of the 20th century, but overall temeperatures were cooler during the same period. I don't believe that they can correlate the data between CO2 and global temperature levels.

In addition, the average temperature rise of .36 degrees F per decade for the last 30 years is also untrue. Satellite temperature measurements have consistently shown the total temperature rise for the last galf of the 20th century was only .1 degrees F.

This article is simply riddled with misinformation and mis-statements.




(Uh-oh, here it comes!)

[dynoman]

Actually in many cases the CO2 increase was after a temperature increase.

<<<-------longer ago --------- more recent-------->>>
<<<------Temperature --------- CO2------->>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<<<-------more recent --------- longer ago-------->>>
<<<------CO2 --------- Temperature------->>>

[grobdriver]

The global transition from ice age to greenhouse 300 million years ago was marked by repeated dips and rises in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere

Those damn cave men and their cars.... I mean... opps.

[Froufrou]

Oh. Well, I knew that from the opening scenes of "Ice Age."

[Argus]

George Bush was around 300 million years ago? That guy is truly amazing.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I find it comical that a scientist is trying to explain the current, alleged, global temperature swing by juxtaposing human civilization with geologic time frames.

Whether it was 300 million years ago or 300 days ago, no human can easily comprehend a process that takes hundreds of thousands...or even thousands of years to manifest.

[cpdiii]

Carbon dioxide levels last year reached 380 ppm, rising at almost twice the rate of a decade ago, experts said. Average global temperatures have been rising about 0.36 of a degree Fahrenheit per decade for the last 30 years.

Not true

[Obadiah]

...the same increase that experts expect by the end of this century as remaining reserves of fossil fuels are burned.

That's a MSM two-fer! Global warming is going to kill us, AND we're running out of oil!!

[msnimje]

[redpoll]

"... Over several million years, carbon dioxide in the ancient atmosphere increased from about 280 parts per million to 2,000 ppm, the same increase that experts expect by the end of this century as remaining reserves of fossil fuels are burned.... "

BS ALERT!!

I consider myself well-read about climate change and nowhere have I come across anyone anywhere who has stated that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will approach 2000 ppm. (This doesn't mean that someone hasn't stated it - just that I have not seen it in Scientific American, Science, Nature, or other journals like that.) I just did a quick google and found that even the radical environmentalists are stating that the figure for the end of the century will be 450 to 550 ppm.

The other BS alert: "...as the remaining reserves of fossil fuels are burned..." Talk about hyperbole! All the natural gas, all the oil, all the methane hydrates are gone by the year 2100?

So, in essence, we're all going to die. Which is true for all of us. I won't make it to 2100. I don't think my death will be from global warming, though.

In the meantime, as I turn to me left, I can see the temperature outside my window. It is now -40.9 degrees, about 35 degrees below average for this place and this time of year. Must have something to do with global warming.

[guitfiddlist]

Don't dismiss this article, folks, because this is the key to smacking these idiot global-warming certaintists right across their arrogant temples.

Ask them "Why and how did 'Global-like-Warming-man®' happen before man was even around...dude?...Take your time."

Then give them an example that strikes home to these essentially selfish and hypocritical pinheads:

"OK, like dude, man...suppose the city said that there was a smell coming from your neighborhood, 'nd like dude...they kinda figgered it was cuz of your septic tank...'nd cuz-a-that, they're like demanding that you spend what your house is worth to like dig it up and then follow all the potential drain points to like sanitize it...man. But...don't question their judgement on that, man, cuz that would be like totally reactionary...just accept it and dig deep, dude."

We all know what these self-centered and hypocritical schmucks would say.

[quantfive]

From all the research I have read I come to a couple of conclusions:

1) Global warming cycles are tied to hundreds of year long solar cycles of the sun.

2) Mankind and all animal life in general benefit as a whole from warmer temps. More food supply.

3) Their is nothing we can do about this. We should be responsible and focus on pollution going into our atmosphere because thier is conclusive proof we have damaged the ozone causing lots more cancer and lung-ilness.

[Terabitten]

The most important line in the article is the very last one:

"It suggests," she said, "that the normal behavior in major climate transitions is instability, erratic temperature behavior and carbon dioxide changes."

Get that? Changes are NORMAL!

[Old Seadog]

'We never should have invented the wheel."

[Old Professer]

Here we are now changing the rules in midstream; it will no longer be enough to counter the human influence by pointing to warming periods in the past because it is the speed with which the warming takes place that is at the hand of man, therefore, only man can change it back or stop it.

Perfect ploy, it's still my fault and I didn't do a thing.

[GladesGuru]

"- unpredictable climate changes that took millions of years to unfold naturally could be compressed into a few centuries or less today, several experts said."

And, pig will fly, too. Better get all your Liberal friends to invest in pork belly futures, NOW! Tell 'em to mortgage the house, invest their whelps college funds - get in while there is still time!

[Reverend Bob]

Carbon dioxide levels of 2000 ppm by the end of the century? Where does this guy get his info? The level prior to 1800 was approximately 280 ppm. In 1992 it was at 355. Even if some of the projections are right and we hit 600 ppm "in less than forty years" (source: Prothero: AFTER THE DINOSAURS, page 311) that's still well shy of 2000.

Another problem with this article: 300 Million years ago (Carboniferous/Early Permian) was a time of great diversification and biotic expansion. Oxygen levels, and temperature, were much higher than now. Life flourished. It was only later, when carbon levels dropped, that earth experienced a massive floral extinction. Now, if they are,in fact, talking of the end Permian, they may have a point. Carbon levels then may have reached an all time of 3000 ppm (Ward: OUT OF THIN AIR) but there was also a massive drop in oxygen (to about 12% -- current level is 21% and the Carboniferous high about 31%).

In any event the 2000 ppm figure knocked me right off. Will now go back, read the rest, and see how much science was able to creep through the author's breathless prose.

[Bernard Marx]

Wow, the full-court press by the media on this alarmist topic is amazing! Of course they're playing offense for the Democrats in Congress, as usual. They're trying to get the sheeple into a state of panic so whatever socialist legislation the Donks write will get popular support.