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Will the United States Survive Until 2022?
New English Review ^
| January 2007
| John Derbyshire
Posted on 01/03/2007 1:15:05 AM PST by rmlew
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This is an interesting piece but I see some major flaws in it.
1. The timespan is wrong. It will take at least another three generations for us to collapse. even liberals want to be Americans. They simply redefine it on their terms. This is also true for immigrants. Until this changes or numbers become overwhelming, we will still survive. Hence, I see 2 generations or 50 years as more reasonable.
As I have written in the past, the Goths have crossed the Danube, Hadrianople awaits.
2. The ethnocentric core the US did not reign supreme in 1960. That is the year that they ceded dominance.
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posted on
01/03/2007 1:15:09 AM PST
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rmlew
To: Paleo Conservative; dennisw; stand watie; ex-snook
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01/03/2007 1:16:58 AM PST
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rmlew
(Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
To: gubamyster
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01/03/2007 1:20:13 AM PST
by
rmlew
(Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
To: rmlew
While I'm sure this is a very interesting article, I believe this has all been covered by Zager and Evans.
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01/03/2007 1:23:19 AM PST
by
james500
To: rmlew
even liberals want to be Americans. They simply redefine it on their terms.
There is a difference is being an American as we have known it and being a "redefined American" such as being part of a North American Union. Being redefined out of existence in the next 15 years is a great threat, which is why getting control of the borders is such a dire necessity and an even greater priority than the war in Iraq.
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posted on
01/03/2007 1:26:46 AM PST
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: rmlew
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posted on
01/03/2007 1:36:38 AM PST
by
Dallas59
(HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
To: rmlew
This will be the last year of the US. Then in 2008 Hellary will win POTUS, then it will end, and she will win because it`s now 2007 and Repubs still don`t have a candidate.
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"Thank you! It`s been a wonderous 230 years, but I`ve just learned I`ve been fired!"
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posted on
01/03/2007 1:52:19 AM PST
by
Screamname
(My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
To: rmlew
Very interesting... but a long read. Well worth the time, though.
To: Mobile Vulgus
Many interesting points are made, but I am stubborn in believing that this country's best days are still ahead of it. I have four children, my wife is not white (from Taiwan), and I am trying to raise them as Christains first and American patriots second, to the best of my ability. Their resilience amazes me. I even will annoy you all by saying that I do not prefer any other time to the present, warts and all. I am hopeful for their future, and on the other hand if Jesus comes tomorrow, I pray frequently that we will all be ready.
Have a nice day, and go about the business of life.
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01/03/2007 2:37:18 AM PST
by
ReveBM
To: rmlew
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01/03/2007 2:50:09 AM PST
by
freeangel
( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
To: rmlew
even liberals want to be Americans Funny most of them I talk to these days define themselves as Earth Citizens, not Americans. No, this is not sarcasm...it is true. I can't count the times anymore that I've has one of their ilk tell me they don't consider themselves a US citizen.
The 'redefined' American is a thing of the past. Earth Citizenship is an ideal fast becoming popular.
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01/03/2007 2:59:52 AM PST
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EBH
To: EBH
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01/03/2007 3:00:59 AM PST
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EBH
To: ReveBM
"I have four children, my wife is not white (from Taiwan), and I am trying to raise them as Christains first and American patriots second, to the best of my ability."
Thank you. Leave it to a Brit (sorry all other Brits) to mechanically set fault lines. Lol. America will survive based on the glue that binds us and causes our critics to hate us with a vengeance.
On the overhand, Eurabia may well prove to be an oxymoron.
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01/03/2007 3:22:04 AM PST
by
Earthdweller
(All reality is based on faith in something.)
To: rmlew
"even liberals want to be Americans."
But only because the entitlements are good. Wait until Social Security and Medicare must be cut, and they will bail out like rats from a sinking ship.
To: Dallas59
I am sure there is a muslim close by that will be more than happy to accommodate you. There are millions here and not one of them places the USA above the cult of islam.
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01/03/2007 3:33:21 AM PST
by
ByteMercenary
(9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
To: rmlew
Wow! You are a true "The sky is falling" person. The United States is NOT going to fall. It is sad that you don't trust in God enough to know that we will be alright. There is nothing wrong with America that hasn't been there for years and years. Liberals were here in the 20's and I never read where people thought America was gone. The only time I believe I read where people thought America was gone was during Watergate because it was such an awful time for America. We have not had anything near that since.
To: james500
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01/03/2007 3:55:39 AM PST
by
SIDENET
(Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
To: EBH
Funny most of them I talk to these days define themselves as Earth Citizens, not Americans. No, this is not sarcasm...it is true. I can't count the times anymore that I've has one of their ilk tell me they don't consider themselves a US citizen.
Neither should we.
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01/03/2007 3:57:20 AM PST
by
freedomfiter2
("Modern, bureaucratic, unionized education is a form of intellectual child abuse." Newt Gingrich)
To: napscoordinator
"It is sad that you don't trust in God enough to know that we will be alright." That holds up only if the culture does an about face. Too many have turned their backs on God. Providence is not unconditional.
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01/03/2007 4:21:56 AM PST
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AIM-54
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01/03/2007 4:29:49 AM PST
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redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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