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Jeb Bush in 2008?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/IA03Aa01.html ^ | Spengler

Posted on 01/02/2007 9:21:36 AM PST by ventanax5

Two and a half years ago I predicted George W Bush's victory in the 2004 elections as well as the subsequent ruin of his political fortune. "Many will be the night during his second term," I wrote in August 2004, "that Bush will wish he were still in Texas, and still drunk." [1]

Here is a follow-on forecast: brother Jeb, about to step down as governor of the state of Florida, will be elected president of the United States in 2008, thanks in large measure to the rebound ofthe current president's standing. In fact, I have no idea whether this will occur. But I raise the prospect to show why it could occur.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; florida; jeb; jebbush
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To: ventanax5

I have been burned by the two previous Bushes. Apparently the entire family lacks the "vision thing" gene.

I would listen to what Jeb has to say, perhaps he would change my mind. But I can tell you he will have an uphill battle getting my support.

I'm not inclined to look favorably on the Bush family at this point. They seem like decent people, but I would not likely trust another one with the presidency.


22 posted on 01/02/2007 9:31:48 AM PST by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: ventanax5

No way. Not ever.


23 posted on 01/02/2007 9:31:50 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: ventanax5

I would like Guliani better mainly because I know he would absolutely destroy Hellary in a debate. Either Rudy or Ann Coulter, just anyone who will just expose the Rodham myth for what it is, for all the public to see, to the point where your average soccer Mom will be saying "My God, Hellary truly is a mad woman!!"


24 posted on 01/02/2007 9:32:23 AM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: ventanax5
Jeb was a damn fine governor with only a couple of lapses in judgment. If Dubya had never been President, I would have been PROUD to vote Jeb into the Oval Office.

But now? Never.

Which is a damned shame, because I always felt that Jeb had the brains of the family.

25 posted on 01/02/2007 9:33:02 AM PST by Wormwood (As moderate as Barry Goldwater)
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To: HelloooClareece

So would I. And it could happen.

Be Seeing You,

Chris


26 posted on 01/02/2007 9:33:20 AM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: isthisnickcool
Most Americans agreed with Governor Bush. He did what the law allowed and didn't attempt to act like a dictator to please a loud and obnoxious, but very small minority.

Nice attempt though at a


27 posted on 01/02/2007 9:33:25 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: ventanax5

Can anyone imagine the libs screaming about President Bush for eight more years?


28 posted on 01/02/2007 9:33:33 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: ventanax5

Fred Thompson ... please, someone get Fred Thompson...


29 posted on 01/02/2007 9:35:14 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: ventanax5

No for the simple reason that he is named BUSH.

I don't believe that the GOP is so bereft of talent that all they can rely on is a family with the name of Bush.


30 posted on 01/02/2007 9:35:28 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: ventanax5

In ABSTRACT terms, this is the conspiratorial view of what’s going on vis-à-vis the INVASION of the illegals here:

The current alien invasion from the south serves BOTH the elites who run Mexico – and many of the OTHER states of Central and South America -- and the political ruling class who increasingly run the United States:

· It takes pressure off the 60 or so families who control approximately 80% of the wealth in Mexico. Without the northern “safety valve” (the United States) for their poor, those poor MIGHT be inclined to do what America’s early colonists found it necessary to do: Revolt! Parenthetically, that would be MY suggestion for them: Instead of fleeing here – and converting “here” to a larger, more poverty infested version of “there,” they ought to stay there and make “there” into their version of “here,” whatever that would be. Revolutions ARE messy and there are no guarantees that they will produce the desired result. But – according to one T. Jefferson – they are often necessary. Never forget that THIS country was born in revolution!

· For the NAFTA/CAFTA coveting US national ruling class – especially those who, in varying degrees, quest after some sort of One-World utopia run by guess who? – it provides yet another level of insecurity and tension among the indigenous populace which can be used to justify new and more draconian limits to freedom here. Instead of securing the borders, allow millions of illegals to come in and when the natives become alarmed, require a national ID card. “Your papers, please!” will soon become a phrase familiar to all. It’s Mr. Franklin’s trade of freedom for (false) security. It’s also the time-tested Hegelian Dialectic the One-Worlders have successfully worked like a rented mule.

While they occasionally squabble among themselves, the elites of history have ALL had one thing in common: They will do ANYTHING to remain in charge. And throughout that history, except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.

Get ready, folks. Unless some SERIOUS changes are made and the handful of Americans who CARE about liberty get involved, that history will almost certainly repeat here.

Now for the SPECIFICS of the matter:

My take on Bush's role in all of this is:
1. His long and apparently positive experience with the large hispanic population in Texas is largely responsible for his inaction on this alien invasion. And why wouldn't HIS experience with them be positive as he traveled in the highest, best-educated circles among them, not the Hispanic gangbangers and pine-straw spreaders...
2. His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico and his nieces and nephews are mixed blood. And before you scream "ethnocentric bigot" at me, there's nothing inherently wrong with that). But that fact -- and the first item -- DOES predispose him to a warm and fuzzy feeling for folks from south of the Rio Grande.
And if -- in some strange and metastasizing American desire for a new royal family dynasty -- Jeb should win the White House, I'd bet that HIS activities toward this alien invasion will make W's behavior look like a warm-up exercise.
Any vestige of white European culture will be a distant memory.


31 posted on 01/02/2007 9:35:42 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Maceman

They lack the ability to comunicate the vision thing. I think they have it.


32 posted on 01/02/2007 9:35:43 AM PST by kinghorse (calls them like I sees them)
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To: COEXERJ145
Of course, according to certain FReepers, the reason he shouldn't run is because his wife is *gasp* Mexican.

**********

No kidding. Which FReepers are those?

33 posted on 01/02/2007 9:36:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ventanax5

while i think jeb bush has performed extremely well, he has two areas which deserve closer scrutiny: his judicial appointments and attitude on immigration. neither one's a show-stopper, but he'd need to answer some difficult questions, particularly on the issue of illegal mexican immigration.


34 posted on 01/02/2007 9:36:50 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: isthisnickcool

Good post.


35 posted on 01/02/2007 9:37:13 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: trisham

The ever shrinking Nascar Republican Party. The one the liberals wanted to pigeon hole us with.


36 posted on 01/02/2007 9:37:20 AM PST by kinghorse (calls them like I sees them)
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To: ventanax5
Can't we find some decent conservatives to run?!
37 posted on 01/02/2007 9:38:21 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: ventanax5

Jeb might be a great guy, but long term, it would be a good thing for the Republican Party to practice abstinence: just lay off the Bush for a while.


38 posted on 01/02/2007 9:41:34 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: kinghorse
They lack the ability to comunicate the vision thing. I think they have it.

Well, if their vision is to continue to grow our government turn the US into Amexica, they have my undying opposition.

39 posted on 01/02/2007 9:41:41 AM PST by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: ventanax5
No, and he's already gone on record as saying that he's not running for President.

Of course that won't prevent another 100 threads just like this one over the next year.

40 posted on 01/02/2007 9:43:38 AM PST by jpl (u)
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