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Power-Sipping Bulbs Get Backing From Wal-Mart
new york times ^ | 1/2/07 | MICHAEL BARBARO

Posted on 01/02/2007 8:57:15 AM PST by mathprof

As a way to cut energy use, it could not be simpler. Unscrew a light bulb that uses a lot of electricity and replace it with one that uses much less.

While it sounds like a promising idea, it turns out that the long-lasting, swirl-shaped light bulbs known as compact fluorescent lamps are to the nation’s energy problem what vegetables are to its obesity epidemic: a near perfect answer, if only Americans could be persuaded to swallow them.

But now Wal-Mart Stores, the giant discount retailer, is determined to push them into at least 100 million homes. And its ambitions extend even further, spurred by a sweeping commitment from its chief executive, H. Lee Scott Jr., to reduce energy use across the country, a move that could also improve Wal-Mart’s appeal to the more affluent consumers the chain must win over to keep growing in the United States.

“The environment,” Mr. Scott said, “is begging for the Wal-Mart business model.”

It is the environmental movement’s dream: America’s biggest company, legendary for its salesmanship and influence with suppliers, encouraging 200 million shoppers to save energy.

For all its power in retailing, though, Wal-Mart is meeting plenty of resistance — from light-bulb makers, competitors and consumers....

A compact fluorescent has clear advantages over the widely used incandescent light — it uses 75 percent less electricity, lasts 10 times longer, produces 450 pounds fewer greenhouse gases from power plants and saves consumers $30 over the life of each bulb. But it is eight times as expensive as a traditional bulb, gives off a harsher light and has a peculiar appearance.

As a result, the bulbs have languished on store shelves for a quarter century; only 6 percent of households use the bulbs today.

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1 posted on 01/02/2007 8:57:17 AM PST by mathprof
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I use CF bulbs now but not in all places. For instance, in the master bathroom and bedroom I do not use them because it really throws the colors off. In closets, the garage, etc. we use them
2 posted on 01/02/2007 8:59:12 AM PST by jrestrepo
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If they want us to use them lower the price. Price and my wallet matter. Not everybody has 8.00 for a light bulb.


3 posted on 01/02/2007 8:59:15 AM PST by betsyross1776
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We have a house full of 'em.


4 posted on 01/02/2007 8:59:40 AM PST by muawiyah
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5 posted on 01/02/2007 8:59:57 AM PST by presently no screen name
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This is not news to folks who have Costco or Sam's Club memberships. You can buy big lots of 13 W (60 W incandescent equivalent) compact flourescent bulbs really cheap. In fact, because my stepdad has a Costco membership, I've pretty much replaced every incandescent light bulb in the house with CFB's.


6 posted on 01/02/2007 9:00:03 AM PST by RayChuang88
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I've replaced every bulb in the house except for the ones on dimmers. The light seems whiter or bluer to me, which I especially appreciate in the winter. The only negative is the brief (1 minute?) warm up time. I think most people choke on the up front cost.


7 posted on 01/02/2007 9:01:09 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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People resist switching to the new light bulbs because of the harsh light. The energy savings aren't worth the headache of being around an unpleasantly lighted room - and people won't pay more for that feature. So they're being smart rather than stupid.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 01/02/2007 9:01:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I use these bulbs in Almost all my lights at home. They don't seem to last as long as they claim...........


9 posted on 01/02/2007 9:01:37 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: jrestrepo
For instance, in the master bathroom and bedroom I do not use them because it really throws the colors off.

That was true in the past but today's CFBs have much more neutral colors and work very well even in bathrooms (they now have new models that can withstand even higher-humidity environments.

10 posted on 01/02/2007 9:01:51 AM PST by RayChuang88
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LED replacement bulbs are the way of the future. 10 times more efficient than even CF bulbs.

It's like walmart getting behind the cassette deck as an alternative to the 8 track, just shortly before the CD player came out.


11 posted on 01/02/2007 9:02:04 AM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be buying feathers and boiling tar.)
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I use quite a few of them except where I have dimmer switches. I usually look for deals or rebates to purchase them as they are still too expensive. If Walmart can cut prices there, they will have another success story.
12 posted on 01/02/2007 9:02:37 AM PST by rhombus
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To: betsyross1776

I have these bulbs all over my house. The only place I don't have them in is my dining room where there is a dimmer switch. I bought several four packs of varying wattages at Home Depot for around $12 each.


13 posted on 01/02/2007 9:02:41 AM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: mathprof; Mrs.Nooseman; Diana in Wisconsin; bfree; Graybeard58; CSM; metesky; wanderin; sitetest; ..

WalMart PING!!!

Happy New Year :)


14 posted on 01/02/2007 9:02:42 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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A box of 4 60 watt bulbs is 88 cents. one CF is around 8 bucks. It will take a long time to make up the cost difference. The light seems weird, too, and they suck in the cold. Thse differences aside, they are great.


15 posted on 01/02/2007 9:02:51 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: RayChuang88

I just got yelled at by my father in law because I told him I refuse to recycle. I should have told him that nearly every incandescent in my house is CF.

I just dropped $30 on 6 bulbs for my kitchen chandelier.


16 posted on 01/02/2007 9:03:12 AM PST by cyclotic (Support Cub Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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Use 'em everywhere in the cathouse!


17 posted on 01/02/2007 9:03:24 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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I hate the things. It takes several minutes for them to warm up and cast the full power of their creepy glow. When I go into my basement, or the laundry room, or a closet, I need to get in, get something, and get out. I'm gone long before the weirdo light bulb can give these middle-aged eyes enough light.

It would never cross my mind to use them in the kitchen, where I need bright halogens on the dark granite, or in the parlor or library or living room, where I want a warm light. So unless they can fix the bizarre Dr. Frankenstein effect and make the things shine brightly the moment you turn them on, I won't be a customer.


18 posted on 01/02/2007 9:03:36 AM PST by Fairview
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We use them where we can, but especially where the lights are one most, like the kitchen and bathroom. Sam's sells them for a pretty good price and occasionally Valu Home centers have them on sale for a GREAT price. You have to check their ads, but it's worth it for the savings on the cost of the bulb.


19 posted on 01/02/2007 9:03:47 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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The bulbs are larger than a standard light bulb and don't fit most of my fixtures.


20 posted on 01/02/2007 9:03:53 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Spork weasels ain't afraid of nuthin' but running out of sardines.)
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