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Families of the condemned feel punished, too
AP via The Austin American Statesman ^ | Sunday, December 31, 2006 | Kristen Gelineau

Posted on 12/31/2006 11:09:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

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To: calex59
"Where is the outpouring of the MSM for the families of the people who were murdered, the real victims? They don't count I guess, only the families of the scum bag killers. "

This is typical Liberal thinking. That's why convicts have health spa's, gym's, tatoo parlors, libraries, schools, Trailers for a weekend romp with a hooker, free health care, Color TV's, live entertainment, etc. etc.

Everyone's a victim except the victim. Nobody is expected to take personl responsibilty for their actions, it's always someone elses fault, because (add reason here)screwed up their lives because they were (circle those that apply) abused, had no father, had no mother, fell in with the wrong crowd, were drunk, stoned, drunk and stoned, have a chemical imbalance, hormone imbalance,....

21 posted on 01/01/2007 12:04:10 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paleo Conservative; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; ...


22 posted on 01/01/2007 12:05:30 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: Slings and Arrows; sheik yerbouty; martin_fierro; COEXERJ145
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LOL!

23 posted on 01/01/2007 12:10:41 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
""When somebody says, 'How did your husband die?' and you say, 'Oh, he was executed by the State of Texas,' their hand leaves you and they walk away as if you are contagious with this death penalty disease," said Christina Lawson, whose husband, David Martinez, was executed last year for the rape and murder of Kiersa Paul, a 24-year-old University of Minnesota student, on Austin's Barton Creek greenbelt in 1997."

A sane person wouldn't admit that they married a serial rapist and murderer. Only someone looking for some sick, twisted form of notoriety would. They would quietly put that behind them and move on.

24 posted on 01/01/2007 12:15:41 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lurker
Also Robert Meeropol wrote a book with his brother Michael, "We Are Your Sons" that supposedly exposed new evidence that their parents were not traitors. They participated in numerous anti-war movements and were members of the SDS. The final paragraph of their book reads:

"The American people have paid a heavy price for the American Inquisition. It is time to explode the myth that the lie of our parents' guilt helped perpetuate. We pledge ourselves to fight in the courts, in the Congress, in the press, on speakers' platforms, anywhere, until the truth of our parents' innocence is public knowledge."

The book was published in 1975. To date the boys have failed in their above stated goal.
25 posted on 01/01/2007 12:41:05 AM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Paleo Conservative
How can any rational person respond to crap like this?

The Social Contract is as old as civilization. The tribal urge is strongest on the weak, the ignorant and the marginally socialized. Educating them is is like fertilizing a rock.

We are all subject to the same rules. Deaths are regretable. Conscioulsy killing another is intolerable.

The choice of comforting the innocent victims is paramount. Killers are not enabled all on their own.

Zero sympathy here. As an argument against the death penalty, this argument is, if anything, a reinforcement of my expectation that capital punishment will always exist where deserved.

26 posted on 01/01/2007 12:44:01 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Founding Father
IIRC there is a niece or grand daughter of the Rosenbergs running around spouting off a bunch of similar anti-American claptrap.

As far as the families of the executed go, my give a damn is busted.

L

27 posted on 01/01/2007 12:45:04 AM PST by Lurker (History's most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Oh COOTIES!

James Reid?

He earned his lethal rejection:

In February 1998, James Edward Reid was sentenced to death for the capital murder, attempted rape, and attempted robbery of 87 year old Annie V. Lester in her home in Christiansburg in October, 1996. Lester was beaten over the head with a can of condensed milk and stabbed 22 times with scissors. Reid was 51 years old at the time of the crime.

And his sister? I am sure she understands that he earned his death for killing a defenceless little old lady.Its her own fault she cannot accept it.

BTW the national news papers are full of this,"Families of the Executed Suffer Too" bull shite. Looks like the moonbat anti=capital pnishment mavens are emboldened by the Dem congessional "takeover".

28 posted on 01/01/2007 1:34:51 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Lurker

I agree. His parents were traitors and received the righteous penalty.

Now if Nancy Pelosi (aka Tokyo Rose) were only put on trial.


29 posted on 01/01/2007 4:51:59 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Nathan Zachary
"When somebody says, 'How did your husband die?' and you say, 'Oh, he was executed by the State of Texas,' their hand leaves you and they walk away as if you are contagious with this death penalty disease," said Christina Lawson, whose husband, David Martinez, was executed last year for... rape and murder"

I agree. You'd think her husband's crimes -- and not his execution -- would be the real locus of her shame. Perhaps people are more likely to ask, "How did your husband die?" than "why did you divorce your husband?" but that's hardly a reason not to execute rapist-murderers. She could truthfully answer, "he died of a drug overdose."

Historically, a couple of hundred years ago in England, for example, while a "gentleman" was in theory just as subject to capital punishment, one of the bases for a "gentleman" getting his execution sentence downgraded was if he had unmarried sisters whose marriage prospects would be destroyed by the scandal of execution. (Apparently the execution was seen as more scandalous than the crime itself.) Working class people had no such out, since their sisters had no such prospects.
30 posted on 01/01/2007 4:53:01 AM PST by DWPittelli
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31 posted on 01/01/2007 4:55:21 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Notice how to the MSM everybody is a victim - except the real victim?
32 posted on 01/01/2007 4:55:57 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Founding Father

The Venona cables show that the Rosenbergs were traitors. The NSA released the papers in 1995.


33 posted on 01/01/2007 4:56:49 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Nathan Zachary

Since Ms. Lawson is now only 28, the 1997 murder took place when she was 19. It seems highly likely that she met and married the defendant after he committed the murder or even after he was convicted.


34 posted on 01/01/2007 4:58:21 AM PST by writmeister
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To: Paleo Conservative

Well, then this will give criminals something else to think about won't it?


35 posted on 01/01/2007 5:00:58 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Back when I carried a 9mm (I have yet seen the light and IT shines through .44 holes) I was discussing the Black Talons in my CZ's clip with a co-worker. She was upset that I carried bullets that were "designed to maim and kill" (Yes she was a blonde, duh!). I made the remark that if they made a bullet that would not only kill the scumbag targeted but also his mother for bringing him into this world I'd buy a truckload.

No other story, this just brought back fond memories....

36 posted on 01/01/2007 5:10:06 AM PST by Feckless (En Temps)
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To: Paleo Conservative
So. We should not remove a deadly threat to the population because it will hurt a family member's feelings?

37 posted on 01/01/2007 5:13:30 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The clock in the kitchen of her Charlottesville home ticked down the final minutes. Just after 9 p.m., she clutched her mother and began to cry. In Virginia's death chamber, James Reid was receiving a lethal injection, his punishment for murdering an elderly woman.

Probably much the same reaction that the victims of any of these murderers felt when THEY received the news that their loved one was brutally murdered; but those families never had the chance to prepare themselves mentally for it to happen. It's no secret that it's going to happen in this case.

No bleeding heart sob story is going to change my mind about capital punishment.

38 posted on 01/01/2007 5:37:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

"Since the Supreme Court reinstated capital punishment in 1976, more than 1,000 people have been executed in the United States."

How come the idiots in the media fall over themselves reporting exactly the number of troops killed in Iraq the minute one dies, but they can never reveal the number of wasters of oxygen that have been executed? Is it some kind of big state secret or something?


39 posted on 01/01/2007 5:53:48 AM PST by VanB
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To: Candor7

... IMHO I think there are two 'i's in bull-shiite ...

Good post.


40 posted on 01/01/2007 6:04:04 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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