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Can British wine grapes resolve a global warming question?
enterstageright.com ^ | December 11, 2006 | Dennis T. Avery

Posted on 12/13/2006 9:09:02 PM PST by quantim

British wine grapes are suddenly in the midst of the global warming controversy.

Historic records tell us that Britain grew wine grapes 2000 years ago during the Roman Warming, and 1000 years ago during the Medieval Warming. Since 1300, however, Britain has been too cold for wine grapes. The debate: Is human-induced warming boosting British temperatures to "unnatural" levels, or is the gradual warming a repeat of previous cycles?

The website English-wine.com says there are more than 400 vineyards in Britain today, and ". . . the good news about English wine [is] how good, even superb, it can be."

It certainly sounds like Britain has gotten warmer recently, but why? The same web site has a "History" section, which reveals:

"In England [today], it is only in about 2 years in every 10 that grape production will be really good, 4 years will be average and 4 years poor or terrible—largely due to weather and/or disease exacerbated by weather." (Sounds as if we aren't quite to "wine country warmth yet, doesn't it?)

The same web site also says:

"In the 1990s the increase in the number of vineyards and the acreage under cultivation has leveled off, maybe even declined a little. There are a number of reasons for this— many English vineyards have undoubtedly been established with little knowledge of, or even concern for, their financial viability. A saying has grown up that the best way to get a small fortune is to have a large fortune and buy an English vineyard. Whilst this is cruel, it is also pretty certain that it is true."

The web site RealClimate, though it believes fervently in man-made global warming, accurately laid out the last 1000 years of British wine-making on July 12, 2006:

"The earliest documentation that is better than anecdotal is from the Domesday Book (1087 AD) . . . Selley quotes Unwin (J. Wine Research, 1990) who records 46 vineyards across Southern England [at that time] . . . production clearly declined after the 13th century, and had a modest resurgence in the 17th and 18th centuries, only to decline to historic lows in the 19th century when only 8 vineyards are recorded. . . . English and Welsh wine production started to have a renaissance in the 1950s. By 1977, there were 124 reasonable-sized vineyards in production—more than at any other time over the previous millennium."

So, British wine-making thrived during the Medieval Warming, failed during the Little Ice Age (1300 to 1850), and began to make a comeback in the 1950s, after major world temperature surges between 1850–70 and 1920–40. The uncertain quality of today's British wine grapes indicates that Britain still isn't as warm now as during the Roman and Medieval Warmings.

This argues that we're in a long, natural climate cycle. So does the fact that more than 70 percent of the planet's recent warming occurred before 1940, and thus before humans emitted much CO2. Ice cores and seabed sediments show the 1500-year cycle extending back 900,000 years, and carbon 14 isotopes say it's linked to variations in the sun's irradiance.

British wine-growers are likely to have several more moderately warmer centuries in which to prosper. And wine-lovers will have more-pleasant weather in which to enjoy the wines than they did during the cold, cloudy and stormy Little Ice Age. A reduction in fossil fuel use might be a good strategy for the future, but apparently would have little impact on earth's climate. ESR

Dennis T. Avery was a senior policy analyst for the U.S. State Department, where he won the National Intelligence Medal of Achievement. He is the co-author, with atmospheric physicist Fred Singer, of the book Unstoppable Global Warming—Every 1500 Years, available from Rowman & Littlefield. </snip>


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; climate; climatechange; dietandcuisine; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; oenology; romanempire; unitedkingdom; wine
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To: Michael.SF.

"Bob -- Look at that Martha, their wearing Tee shirts!
Martha -- So?
Bob -- It's 12 degrees outside. I spent two freakin hours shovlin so you get get your freakin gum drops for that damned cake and those Yahoo's are wearin freakin shorts!!
Martha -- Your point?
Bob -- We're movin......... This time I mean it!........ we're movin to California. "

That is precisely how Pasadena was founded...a mass migration from Indiana folk who were tired of the cold weather.


22 posted on 12/18/2006 1:47:49 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Michael.SF.
The failures of the British to develop a true wine industry is due to many reasons, climate being low on that list. Such other factors as:

** Easy access to superior wine from Bordeaux.

Actually, in the 13th century the evidence is to the contrary - the French winemakers were complaining about their markets being flooded by imported British wines.

23 posted on 12/18/2006 1:52:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: FrPR
6. Real men don't need SUVs. Drive happily anyway.

the suspension in my SUV makes for a much smoother than any truck i've ever driven. That means the the wine won't bruise er.. i mean the keg won't get shaken up too badly in transport.
24 posted on 12/18/2006 1:53:45 PM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: lepton
Actually, in the 13th century the evidence is to the contrary -

I was thinking of later years, 17th and 18th century's when the wines of France were dominant in England, along with the Ports.

England did have a moderately strong wine economy, as you state, but it died out for many reasons. My point was contrary to this article, weather was not a primary factor.

25 posted on 12/18/2006 3:09:36 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It's time our lawmakers paid more attention to their responsibilities, and less to their privileges.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Note: this topic was posted December 11, 2006. Thanks quantim.

26 posted on 03/24/2014 5:40:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Michael.SF.

“Easy access to superior wine from Bordeaux.”

Except that during the MWP, the complaint was that the British wines were substantially cutting into the French market...even in France.


27 posted on 03/24/2014 5:55:06 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Michael.SF.

Sorry. Resurrected thread.


28 posted on 03/24/2014 5:56:31 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: fat city

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29 posted on 03/24/2014 9:00:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: lepton
Wow, this is a blast from the past!!

;)

Point of interest: Wine Author Hugh Johnson, has a book: "World Atlas of Wine"

I have a copy from 1975 and also an updated version from 2010 (I think, I am not at home so cannot confirm).

The book is an excellent wine reference book, one I highly recommend. In the opening section he has a map of Europe with the 'Noble wine' regions listed:

Bordeaux, Burgundy, Rhone and others. It also lists very specific section within those regions, such as in Burgundy, he references 'Mer Sault', 'Mont Rachet' and others.

The spellings are old, but the names are recognizable. The list is, if I recall correctly from the Roman era.Even then, they knew which lands produced the best wines.

If you are not familiar with the book, I think you will find it of interest.

30 posted on 03/24/2014 10:11:58 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: quantim

Those Romans and their SUVs...


31 posted on 03/26/2014 5:55:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Michael.SF.; SunkenCiv
It is generally true that the regions of Europe too cold to grow good wine grapes became beer and spirits drinkers and the regions capable of producing good wine became wine drinkers. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, such as Germany's excellent wine region.

England seems to go back and forth, although pubs are still dominant over wine bars. I'm not surprised wine-making prospered in this relative warm cycle.

32 posted on 03/26/2014 1:08:48 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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