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Meatpacking raids: A victim's story
MSNBC ^ | 13 December 2006 | Bob Sullivan

Posted on 12/13/2006 2:48:25 PM PST by APRPEH

Theresa Sanchez was expecting a $5,400 tax refund when she opened a letter from the IRS in January 2003. Instead, she got a bill demanding payment of taxes on $120,000 in undeclared wages. Someone using her name and Social Security number had earned the money through a series of jobs dating back to 1996 and had not paid any taxes on the income, the letter said.

Sanchez complained to the agency and to the Federal Trade Commission that her identity had been stolen, and was being used by someone to gain employment. Nonetheless, more than two years later, in April 2005, a woman walked into the Swift & Co. meatpacking plant in Greeley, Colo., and used Theresa Sanchez's name and Social Security number to get a job.

The woman’s employment ruse became public knowledge Tuesday when authorities raided Swift & Co. plants in six states and arrested approximately 1,300 illegal immigrants suspected of buying or stealing other people’s identities to secure U.S. jobs.

The suspect accused of illegally using Sanchez’s identity is identified only as Jane Doe in an affidavit filed by authorities Tuesday in Weld County, Colo., district court.

Attempts to find the real Sanchez, who lives in Texas, were unsuccessful. Neither Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials nor the Federal Trade Commission would provide additional details about her or her case.

But MSNBC.com was able to piece together part of her decade-long identity theft ordeal from details provided in the affidavit.

Sanchez told investigators that she suspects her ex-husband gave the information to an imposter about 10 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at redtape.msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; databreach; identitytheft; illegals; immigrantlist; lawenforcement
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To: TomGuy

The litany of abuses is so long, so byzantine and so silly, that it would be impossible to construct such a mess unless it was by design, and not incompetence.

A local talk-radio host commenting on the matter suggested or asked if it might be time for a "national ID" to prevent such abuses. My thought is, if the government is unable or unwilling to tackle the matter given the amount of technology available, what makes anyone think a national ID is going to make one iota of a difference, other than to inconvenience law abiding citizens, and provide yet another layer of nonsense on an increasingly pissed off citizenry.


21 posted on 12/13/2006 3:16:44 PM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: TomGuy
not so sure. if the illegal was using a different name and the same SSN, the resulting "sub-file" info might not show up on the annual summary.

however, since the consumer/victim in this story was indeed receiving IRS statements for unreported income than the above scenario wouldn't hold. the presumption is that she read the annual SSA letter.

its a good point you made and needs to be investigated.

22 posted on 12/13/2006 3:22:05 PM PST by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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To: TomGuy

“If the SSN had SS income, that amount would show up in the documentation for said SSN.”

I believe the SS report is taken from your 1040. Thus, you would have no way of knowing.


23 posted on 12/13/2006 3:24:34 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: FMBass

SSA receives income data just like the IRS from your employer.


24 posted on 12/13/2006 3:36:30 PM PST by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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To: APRPEH

"SSA receives income data just like the IRS from your employer."

Are you sure? I thought that the data goes to the IRS who then gives it to SSA after you file your 1040.


25 posted on 12/13/2006 3:43:58 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: APRPEH

Another sob story to advance the Communist agenda.


26 posted on 12/13/2006 3:48:22 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: APRPEH

Oh Im sure the republican-bashing open border freepers will be quick to go on the defensive about this article.


27 posted on 12/13/2006 3:48:52 PM PST by ImAmericanFirst (www.gopteamleader.com <--Let's Start Working on 2008 NOW! (Formerly MaineVoter2002))
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To: APRPEH
Theresa Sanchez was expecting a $5,400 tax refund when she opened a letter from the IRS in January 2003. Instead, she got a bill demanding payment of taxes on $120,000 in undeclared wages. Someone using her name and Social Security number had earned the money through a series of jobs dating back to 1996 and had not paid any taxes on the income, the letter said.

Nothing will be done about this until some US Senator's child gets a similar letter. On the other hand, the Senator will probably have the "problem" resolved for their child and that will be the end of it.

28 posted on 12/13/2006 3:52:19 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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To: conservative in nyc

Maybe a class action lawsuit would change their minds.
Sometimes I wish I was a lawyer....


29 posted on 12/13/2006 3:53:19 PM PST by bordergal (There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of men bad enough for this treachery)
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To: Lurker; Dane

I think I was the one who used the phrase "victimless crime".

I roughly estimated that 1/3 of invalid IDs are borrowed from friends and family with the full knowledge and encouragement of the owner. In those cases, it is a "victimless crime".

In another 1/3, the ID is that of a person long dead or a number not yet assigned to anyone, or a number assigned to a child or other person and in which the amount of money reported on the illegal worker was so small that it caused no problem. Those also are "victimless crimes".

Then there is about 1/3 where there is a victim, as in the case above. In most of these cases, the victim is of the same ethnic background as the illegal using the stolen ID.

There is a 4th group I did not mention yesterday. Democrat Congressman Rostenkowski arranged for his patronage to be hired by the Social Security Administration (His committee controlled the SS. In Chicago, only Rostys people knew the date and location of the civil service exam to obtain that employment.) That patronage army SOLD Social Security Cards (and voter registration cards and Drivers Licenses to illegals. During the 60s they mostly sold to east Europeans illegals.

Then my friend Oscar Lopez (not an immigrant, nor of immigrant ancestry) organized the illegal Mexicans, Guatamalens, etc to protest that Rosty was discriminating. Thus in the 70's and since, the Democrats have sold SSNs, etc without discrimination based on race or ethnicity. (It still helps to pass a few Jacksons ... and of course, the illegal must vote Democrat at every election; but that is not a burden as the precinct captain will do it for you and save you the trouble.)

So really, there are 4 situations, not 3, of invalid SSNs. But since the 4th type are SSNs issued by the Social Security Administration itself, they are not seen as a problem by law enforcement.


30 posted on 12/13/2006 4:42:45 PM PST by spintreebob (W)
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To: Lizavetta

You are correct. I would bet if a person came in who the company suspected was an illegal, but the person had a SSN and drivers liscence, the company could be sued for NOT hiring them because of discrimination.

Just like teachers are forbidden to check the facts on any more then 2% of free lunch applications. 98% of those who apply can not be checked out.


31 posted on 12/13/2006 7:25:39 PM PST by WildBillArthur (Support the NRA!)
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ping


32 posted on 12/13/2006 11:24:37 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: machogirl; gubamyster
this is another in a long line of things that don't make sense. if it is ILLEGAL for an American citizen to steal "and identity, credit card fraud, SSI fraud, medicare fraud, why on Earth is the President, MCCain (my senator), willing to give people a pass, get out of jail free card, citizen ship, back taxes and social security, benefits, to people who have committed crimes? They have to had committed some crimes to be here and working illegally(fake id). Why is a citizen not covered under the equal protection clause? Why is an illegal alien entitled to a special protection from jail that the rest of us aren't if we commit fraud?"

Very well stated. Therein lies the whole problem. Why are these people given a privileged status above the law, when Americans are kept to it.

33 posted on 12/13/2006 11:49:19 PM PST by TheLion (We are not the health maintenance organization for Mexico)
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To: TomGuy

"Sanchez would receive annual SS reports that would show total income applied to her SSN"

What yearly report, the only one I ever received was the year I turned 65.


34 posted on 12/14/2006 12:19:22 AM PST by dalereed
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To: APRPEH

bump


35 posted on 12/14/2006 12:34:42 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama - Ted Kennedy's Left-Hand Man.)
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To: APRPEH
This has happened to me !

Someone named Geraldo in VA has been using my SSN for 5 years,

Last year I got a $10,000 bill from the IRS when I should have received a refund.

I hired a tax lawyer and it turned out the IRS lost my 2004 tax forms and did my taxes for me. They did them as a single filer with no write offs etc..

I re-mailed my 2004 tax forms registered mail to the IRS in NY.

The lawyer got my records from the IRS and good old Geraldo shows up with his address and phone number but with my SSN.

His income was only $12,000 but it was added to my income for 2004.

I reported him to the local police, FBI, SSN admin, Secret Service, Postal service and all the credit agencies etc..

It's been a year and I still haven't received my 2004 refund and haven't heard from anyone what happened to Geraldo ?

In my business we do background checks on customers so I did one on myself and Geraldo shows up several times.

It hasn't affected my credit yet but he's been using my SSN for 5 years.

I'm retired military and I suspect he got the SSN from the Gov't some how ?

36 posted on 12/14/2006 12:38:09 AM PST by america-rules
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To: APRPEH
RE: Washington "could have detected suspicious use of her Social Security number"

Absolutely correct and here's proof.

Statement of The Honorable Patrick P. O’Carroll, Inspector General, Social Security Administration, Testimony Before the Subcommittee on Oversight of the House Committee on Ways and Means, February 16, 2006

"In 1998, less than 3 years after the formation of our office, SSA's first confirmed Inspector General testified before Congress and identified the eight greatest challenges facing SSA. After identifying solvency as the first issue, he stated that "Second is the problem of erroneous wage reports held in SSA's Suspense Account."

[What it means: the employer's W-2 (employee earnings) data do not match SSA's Master Earnings file. There's a problem. As a retired "big iron" programmer I've got to believe that multiple hits on the same Master Earnings record (given overlapping time periods and other checks) would also suspend the W-2 data because it indicates possible multiple use of a single SSN.]

"More than 4 years later, in 2002, SSA’s second confirmed Inspector General appeared before Congress and testified that the ESF remained one of the great challenges facing SSA . . .

Now, 4 more years have passed, and I stand before you as SSA’s third confirmed Inspector General. More recommendations have been made to SSA; some have been agreed to, some have even been implemented. Nevertheless, the ESF remains one of SSA’s greatest challenges, and the most significant impediments to resolving that challenge are unchanged: the lack of a meaningful program of sanctions against the most egregious employers, and legal obstacles that prevent SSA from sharing meaningful data with immigration authorities and employers."

More..

"Looking at ESF entries on a yearly basis, the number of entries increased significantly during the decade between 1993 and 2003, but starting in 2001, the increases stopped, and began holding steady."

Remember Monica's boy friend?

The Congress pukes have known for years and years.

37 posted on 12/14/2006 1:04:47 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dalereed
What yearly report, the only one I ever received was the year I turned 65.

SS issues an annual earnings report. It shows total earnings for all previous years. It also shows estimated SS monthly amount if you retired that year, and it shows estimated SS monthly amount if you are on SS disability.

If you have no earnings, you probably do not get that report. SS started automatically issuing them about 10 years ago -- if you have earnings for the year.
39 posted on 12/14/2006 5:35:49 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: spintreebob
There is a 4th group I did not mention yesterday. Democrat Congressman Rostenkowski arranged for his patronage to be hired by the Social Security Administration (His committee controlled the SS. In Chicago, only Rostys people knew the date and location of the civil service exam to obtain that employment.) That patronage army SOLD Social Security Cards (and voter registration cards and Drivers Licenses to illegals. During the 60s they mostly sold to east Europeans illegals.

Why Rosty isn't still in prison mystifies me.

Although I must say the video of him being chased out of a 'town meeting' by a mob of angry senior citizens is one I really, really wish I could dig up on youtube.

That was funny as hell.

L

40 posted on 12/14/2006 5:55:02 AM PST by Lurker (Historys most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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