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To: GodGunsGuts

Buy High, Sell Low! That's my motto!

PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.


4 posted on 12/13/2006 4:43:43 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Many Americans are invested in a US failure in Iraq, and will work diligently to bring it about.)
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To: bondjamesbond

Yep.


6 posted on 12/13/2006 4:45:29 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: bondjamesbond
PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

Better duck. There are plenty of FReepers that will tell you equity is money in the bank. Heck, even the govt. includes that in your "household worth". Too many people think equity is concrete.

12 posted on 12/13/2006 4:48:48 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: bondjamesbond

" PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today. "

The current value of your home is very relevant to the bank that actually owns it.

When all of those "creative" mortgages come to their balloon or higher-payments points, and people find out that they can't refinance, (as promised as a 'selling point') and can't sell, and can't make the payments --

Can you say "Banking Crisis"? (Hint -- the S&L bailout was a sandbox game compared to what could happen, here)....


19 posted on 12/13/2006 4:53:16 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: bondjamesbond

With one exception: what your home is worth today is relevant if you were intending to refinance in the near future.

Of course, refinancing is a form of selling your home. In effect, you sell it to the new lender and pay off the old lender.

If a house no longer appraises at a certain value, the owner's ability to refinance his mortgage is limited by that lower valuation.


21 posted on 12/13/2006 4:53:53 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: bondjamesbond
PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

While that may be true on a micro level, there are series implications on the macro level. The first one that comes to mind is the home equity market. For better or for worse, many people tap into their home equity to pay for college educations, vacations, home improvements, and consumer goods. Pulling that money out of the economy will have a ripple effect.

30 posted on 12/13/2006 5:01:37 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: bondjamesbond
PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

If your home is assessed at more than it's worth you will pay more in taxes than you should.

47 posted on 12/13/2006 5:11:30 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: bondjamesbond
Wish the county tax assessors and the government would be in line with you P.S. statement. Across the nation, tax assessors and the gov have decide that homes are worth more than what they usually sell for. In Franklin Co., NC, we have 'drive-by' picture assessments. Funny thing, how much is a home really worth if it's trashed inside and in dire need of repair and maintenance? This is never taken into account for tax purposes.
48 posted on 12/13/2006 5:11:50 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: bondjamesbond

You are precisely on target. If you could afford the payment, the fact the current market value has declined is pretty much irrelevant.

A residence is a long term investment and short term fluctuations should not be a worrisome consideration.

If you have an increas in the adjustable rate loan and want to re finance there may be some problems. That is however financial risk and was theoretically already paid for by the period of low payments.


81 posted on 12/13/2006 5:29:20 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: bondjamesbond
What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

Or if, as in the article, you want to refinance it to get out of the stupid ARM you got yourself into!

84 posted on 12/13/2006 5:35:43 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: bondjamesbond
What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

Its worth seems to matter a great deal to the county tax assessor and I have to pay him what he says.

166 posted on 12/13/2006 6:58:58 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bondjamesbond
PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

Not completely irrelevant. If it drops by as much as described in the article, it could save you a serious chunk of change on your property taxes. Especially in Texas. 

247 posted on 12/13/2006 8:39:40 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: bondjamesbond
What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

Unfortunately, not always true. The couple in this article are one example of the situation many are in or will be in soon. You see, they have an ARM that started w/ a teaser rate. Their payment is now $3000 and will double when the ARM adjusts. They need to refinance, but they can't refi because of what the home is worth today. They can't afford $6000 a month. They'll probably lose the home and kill their credit.

Maybe I'm a jerk, but I don't feel bad for them. They knew what they were getting into. If they didn't consider the risks, that's their own fault. I guarantee they didn't need a $800,000 home.

297 posted on 12/13/2006 11:48:35 AM PST by green iguana
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To: bondjamesbond
PS. What your home is worth today is irrelevant unless you sell it today.

Or, unless you have a funny money mortgage coming due, like the guy in the story, whose payments are going from 3000 to 6000 per month. He'd probably like to refi that into a normal loan but guess what. He can't because the house's market value is now so much less than the amount owed.

If these people just had to sit tight and not sell or move, and everything else was staying the same, your simple minded response might apply. Welcome to the real world where people actually sometimes have good reasons for getting upset.

374 posted on 12/16/2006 9:18:37 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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