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Few young Japanese these days know much about the battle for the tiny, tear-shaped island 700 miles south of Tokyo.

Unfortunately, even fewer know about the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Unit 731, the Burma Railway, and so many other atrocities, a few of which are listed here.

Maybe if the Japanese were to ever hear the truth, they would quit making stupid remarks like American and Japanese soldiers were fighting with the same emotion. Both wanted to return to their homelands.

1 posted on 12/09/2006 9:31:32 AM PST by Zakeet
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From a friends father who was there and buried thousands of Marines and G.I's. We lost a lot more than 6,000. The government still has not told us of all the losses there. They are hero's' every one. The Greatest Generation!
2 posted on 12/09/2006 9:39:16 AM PST by 70th Division (If we loose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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Good job Zakeet.


3 posted on 12/09/2006 9:39:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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"It was the same for both sides...."

Not quite. The Japanese were butchers. We weren't.

Semper fi.

4 posted on 12/09/2006 9:41:25 AM PST by clintonh8r
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I think Clint should make a film about members the Waffen SS who only wanted to save Europe from the Communists and then return home to their loved ones.


6 posted on 12/09/2006 9:43:51 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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I simply do not understand how any of the Vets can forgive them. I would never own a Japanese made car.


7 posted on 12/09/2006 9:44:17 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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Japanese soldiers were trained to kill without emotion and destroy without remorse.


8 posted on 12/09/2006 9:44:40 AM PST by Porterville (Fight without rules. Fight until only one side stands.)
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Big time Jap denial in their role during WW2... the hate for them is still there in China and both Korea's.


9 posted on 12/09/2006 9:44:47 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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So it is impossible to view a conflict from the point of view of one's enemies?

I wonder how much flak Aeschylus got when he wrote the Persians.

10 posted on 12/09/2006 9:47:46 AM PST by Wormwood (Everybody is lying---but it doesn't matter because nobody is listening)
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"American and Japanese soldiers were fighting with the same emotion. Both wanted to return to their homelands,"

True, but there was more to the emotions on our side than just the one emotion of returning home.

They initiated attack -- we defended freedom.

If the movie glosses that over, then it isn't worth seeing.

12 posted on 12/09/2006 9:50:31 AM PST by FreeReign
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That is one island that should have NEVER been given back to the Japanese. It cost us too much in blood.


13 posted on 12/09/2006 9:53:27 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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The US did a remarkable thing in changing the Japan from what it was pre-WWII to what it is today.

We needed them in the fight against Communism and US leaders did their job in cutting off lingering bitterness for the sake of progress.

Another US success story.

Saw the movie. Liked the first half. The second half devolved into some kind of blurry message...still don't know what it is.

15 posted on 12/09/2006 10:00:14 AM PST by what's up
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I never go to a movie theater, so am anxiously awaiting the release of the DVD.


16 posted on 12/09/2006 10:00:20 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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"How should I express it? It was the same for both sides, for them and us. Everyone was a victim."

****

Tojo as victim! What a great idea for a t-shirt! /sarc


26 posted on 12/09/2006 10:13:05 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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I won't see either of Eastwood's movies which are nothing more than sob stories about the plight of poor Indians and misunderstood Japanese.


34 posted on 12/09/2006 10:40:17 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Six decades after its defeat, Japan is still trying to come to grips with the Pacific War and who was to blame.

One of the results of this "coming to grips" is that the public education system does little to expose the atrocities committed by Japanese troops during WWII. Not unlike some of the stupid things that come out of the mouths of 17 year olds in this country, the student quoted in this article is a product of his education.

I was stationed in Japan for three years, traveled the country quite a bit, had many Japanese friends, both civilian and in the JSDF. In a majority of the people there is a conflicted sense of guilt over WWII. They tend to know Japan was in the wrong, even if their worst atrocities are suppressed in the public conscience.

My impression was that the grinning Japanese at the Arizona memorial and those visiting the shrine to the war criminals in Tokyo were in the minority. I only had one face to face encounter with one of these people and he was immediately confronted by complete strangers who happened to be walking by.

One exception to this is the "why us" mentality that still prevails in Hiroshima. If you were to have no knowledge of WWII (public education) and visited the "Peace" Museum you would come away with the following impression. Japan and the U.S. had conflicting interests in Asia, and somehow a war broke out, and then America nuked us, now look at the pictures of the victims and devastation. Even after a serious revamping of the exhibits, this mentality still prevails. It turns out that the army garrison from Hiroshima was responsible for Nanking. When referring to Nanking the exhibits say that some historians have asserted that some atrocities may have been committed by the Japanese troops.

Overall, I wouldn't make too much of this article. One statement by a 17 year old does not reflect the feelings of a whole society. Japan is one of our strongest allies and its issues with the truth of WWII won't hurt its relationship with the U.S. as much as it continues to hurt its relationships with its Asian neighbors.

37 posted on 12/09/2006 10:57:06 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Zakeet,


Six decades after its defeat, Japan is still trying to come to grips with the Pacific War and who was to blame.


Damn ... I was in the middle of posting a reply ... and you MAGICALLY read my mind ... incredible, word-for-word.

Bataan, Rape of Naking, Pearl Harbor, Burma Railroad (Bridge over the River Kwai), Experimental Medical Prisons ...

Frankly, the Japanese in 1945 were fortunate that the VCR and Portable Digital Camera and Internet hadn't been invented yet ... had the American people had full-color digital and voice access to Japan's Pacific Gulag of War Attrocities, the American Public would have DEMANDED fifty (50) nuclear weapons dropped on Japan.


Patton-at-Bastogne

"May God and His Angels Guard Your Sacred Throne, and May You Long Become It."

Shakespeare, Henry V, Act I, Scene II


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46 posted on 12/09/2006 11:35:40 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (May All of Us be given God's Grace for a Second Chance to travel to our own "Field of Dreams" ...)
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If this review is even remotely accurate, it's just one more reason NOT to see Eastwood's films about Iwo Jima. I'll save my money and use it to buy a real history of that battle. I'm not interested in sentimental journeys that attempt to rationalize the evil of the Japanese Empire.


67 posted on 12/09/2006 12:41:22 PM PST by matt1234
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Maybe if the Japanese were to ever hear the truth, they would quit making stupid remarks like American and Japanese soldiers were fighting with the same emotion. Both wanted to return to their homelands.

The Japanese wanted to return to their homelands - sure "after" they conquered all of Asia.

76 posted on 12/09/2006 1:35:18 PM PST by bulldozer
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What's the line from the book 'Flags of our fathers'

Something to the effect of "The Japanese fought for the Emperor and that made them formidable, the Marines fought for each other, and that made them invincible."

God Bless Ira Hayes

Semper Fi


91 posted on 12/09/2006 2:50:06 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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""How should I express it? It was the same for both sides, for them and us. Everyone was a victim." "

No it WASN'T the same, asshat. You attacked US. You raped and murdered the Chinese, Koreans, and othe Asians. We were just fighting our way towards you. YOU were the fanatics that would rather commit suicide than live in peace with the world.

Clint Eastwood has become just another relativist hollywood twit.
111 posted on 12/10/2006 7:35:18 AM PST by DesScorp (.)
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