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Clint Eastwood's Iwo Jima film resonates in Japan
Reuters ^ | December 9, 2006 | Linda Sieg

Posted on 12/09/2006 9:31:30 AM PST by Zakeet

TOKYO - Hiromasa Murakami went to see Clint Eastwood's "Letters from Iwo Jima" to find out if an American could tell the Japanese side of a battle that became a symbol of U.S. patriotism, but for Japan was a bitter memory of defeat.

After viewing the film on Saturday when it opened it Tokyo, Murakami thinks Eastwood got it right.

"It was marvelous," the 50-year-old carpenter said as he emerged from the theater. "How should I express it? It was the same for both sides, for them and us. Everyone was a victim."

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For many Japanese, the battle that killed 6,800 U.S. Marines and 21,000 Japanese has long been a tragedy best forgotten.

"Iwo Jima was a defeat. It was miserable and no Japanese movie company wanted to try to show it," said Eichi Tsukada, a 71-year-old retiree whose father died in World War Two.

Six decades after its defeat, Japan is still trying to come to grips with the Pacific War and who was to blame.

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Few young Japanese these days know much about the battle for the tiny, tear-shaped island 700 miles south of Tokyo.

But after watching the film on Saturday, 17-year-old high school student Satoshi Koyama said he had learned something.

"American and Japanese soldiers were fighting with the same emotion. Both wanted to return to their homelands," he said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hollywood; iwojima; japan
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Few young Japanese these days know much about the battle for the tiny, tear-shaped island 700 miles south of Tokyo.

Unfortunately, even fewer know about the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Unit 731, the Burma Railway, and so many other atrocities, a few of which are listed here.

Maybe if the Japanese were to ever hear the truth, they would quit making stupid remarks like American and Japanese soldiers were fighting with the same emotion. Both wanted to return to their homelands.

1 posted on 12/09/2006 9:31:32 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
From a friends father who was there and buried thousands of Marines and G.I's. We lost a lot more than 6,000. The government still has not told us of all the losses there. They are hero's' every one. The Greatest Generation!
2 posted on 12/09/2006 9:39:16 AM PST by 70th Division (If we loose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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To: Zakeet

Good job Zakeet.


3 posted on 12/09/2006 9:39:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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"It was the same for both sides...."

Not quite. The Japanese were butchers. We weren't.

Semper fi.

4 posted on 12/09/2006 9:41:25 AM PST by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r

Yep, moral equivalence is alive and well.


5 posted on 12/09/2006 9:43:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Zakeet

I think Clint should make a film about members the Waffen SS who only wanted to save Europe from the Communists and then return home to their loved ones.


6 posted on 12/09/2006 9:43:51 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Zakeet

I simply do not understand how any of the Vets can forgive them. I would never own a Japanese made car.


7 posted on 12/09/2006 9:44:17 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Zakeet

Japanese soldiers were trained to kill without emotion and destroy without remorse.


8 posted on 12/09/2006 9:44:40 AM PST by Porterville (Fight without rules. Fight until only one side stands.)
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To: Zakeet

Big time Jap denial in their role during WW2... the hate for them is still there in China and both Korea's.


9 posted on 12/09/2006 9:44:47 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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So it is impossible to view a conflict from the point of view of one's enemies?

I wonder how much flak Aeschylus got when he wrote the Persians.

10 posted on 12/09/2006 9:47:46 AM PST by Wormwood (Everybody is lying---but it doesn't matter because nobody is listening)
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I read a book a few years back (for the life of me I can't remember the name of it) that was written by a WWII German soldier. I found it fascinating as hell.


11 posted on 12/09/2006 9:50:01 AM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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"American and Japanese soldiers were fighting with the same emotion. Both wanted to return to their homelands,"

True, but there was more to the emotions on our side than just the one emotion of returning home.

They initiated attack -- we defended freedom.

If the movie glosses that over, then it isn't worth seeing.

12 posted on 12/09/2006 9:50:31 AM PST by FreeReign
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That is one island that should have NEVER been given back to the Japanese. It cost us too much in blood.


13 posted on 12/09/2006 9:53:27 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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To: Snoopers-868th

I have been to Asia, even lived there a while.

I have been to Europe and lived there awhile as well.

Whether because of the war, or because of their reflections on the defeat from the war, the people of the current generations living in Japan and Germany today are not the people of Japan and Germany from WWII.

It may be hard for victims to forget or even forgive, but I do believe the sins of the father cannot be placed on the son and the nations, and national psyche, of both Japan and Germany today are not the nations we went to war against.

And, in full disclosure, I own a Toyota.


14 posted on 12/09/2006 9:54:52 AM PST by Wuli
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The US did a remarkable thing in changing the Japan from what it was pre-WWII to what it is today.

We needed them in the fight against Communism and US leaders did their job in cutting off lingering bitterness for the sake of progress.

Another US success story.

Saw the movie. Liked the first half. The second half devolved into some kind of blurry message...still don't know what it is.

15 posted on 12/09/2006 10:00:14 AM PST by what's up
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To: Zakeet

I never go to a movie theater, so am anxiously awaiting the release of the DVD.


16 posted on 12/09/2006 10:00:20 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Porterville
Japanese soldiers were trained to kill without emotion and destroy without remorse.

That is the point. They were trained up into an evil system and many of them did evil things, and they were endorsed. Vastly fewer American soldiers and marines did evil things. But some did, and they were often punished. My dad fought in the Pacific War and I grew up in a home that hated "the Japs." He told me of his real experiences. Sixty years later, it is not so terrible that these former enemies speak about equivalent "emotions" and glance over their actions. We are a just nation and most of our wars have been just. Still, we are prouder of some than others. I am glad that the Japanese are beginning to look at this at all.

17 posted on 12/09/2006 10:01:35 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: ShadowDancer
I read a book a few years back (for the life of me I can't remember the name of it) that was written by a WWII German soldier. I found it fascinating as hell.

Sounds interesting!

Also, don't forget "All Quiet on the Western Front".

18 posted on 12/09/2006 10:02:21 AM PST by Wormwood (Everybody is lying---but it doesn't matter because nobody is listening)
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This is it.
19 posted on 12/09/2006 10:05:31 AM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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I doubt Aeschylus got any flak in Athens for his Persians. Xerxes comes across in the play roughly as George W. Bush does in the mainstream media, complete with unflattering comparisons to his father.

In the course of the Ionian Revolt of the 490s B.C., the Persians recaptured the city of Miletus, killing or enslaving most of the population (the rest were resettled in a town on the Persian Gulf). An Athenian playwright, Phrynichus, wrote a play about the capture of Miletus. When it was performed, the audience burst into tears; Phrynichus was fined 1,000 drachmas and it was made illegal ever to produce that play again.

20 posted on 12/09/2006 10:07:09 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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