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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday December 7th
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 12-07-2006

Posted on 12/07/2006 8:49:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie

http://billroggio.com/archives/2006/12/the_military_and_the.php

The Military and The Media

The divide grows

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: I've completed the first leg of the journey to Iraq, after having moved through Dubai, Kuwait and Baghdad. I am now at Camp Fallujah. While in Fallujah, I'll embed with a Marine Police Transition Team (PTT) and also meet with the Civil Affairs Group. The next stop will be Ramadi.

The trip - from my front door to Fallujah - took 3 ½ days, accounting for the 8 hour time shift between the East Coast and Iraq. This is remarkable considering Iraq is a war zone. I spent all of 35 minutes in the Green Zone getting my ID badge and another two hours waiting for a flight to Fallujah. Most of the time was spent waiting at military airbases, trying to catch that next flight out on a plane or helicopter.

During my movement to Fallujah, I was on 3 bases and one camp: At Ali Al Salem (Kuwait), BIAP (Baghdad International Airport), Camp Stryker, and LZ Washington (inside the Green Zone).

The travel is long, and it can be boring if you let it get to you. But you're surrounded by a bunch of soldiers, Marines and contractors that are also traveling, many of them alone. They are either coming back from or going on leave, or moving into or out of the region. Most of them are quite friendly and happy to strike up a conversation. This is an interesting time to speak to them, because they are not as engrossed in the daily grind of Iraq as they are when I see them while I'm embedded. Here is a brief overview of some of the discussions I had with those I met while shuttling around Kuwait and Iraq.

Ali Al Salem:

At the transient tent (where you get to sleep and store your gear while waiting), I spoke to an Explosive Ordinance and Demolitions (EOD) contractor. These are the guys that blow up the leftover explosives and munitions from the Saddam era. He told me about how the media isn't telling the full story about the nature of the enemy, and specifically complained about the manipulation and distortion of the Kay report. He said he's run across bunkers and the equipment and chemical precursors to WMD buried in the deserts of western Iraq.

During a smoke break, an Army private discussed his time in Balad. He said mortars (which are blind-fired) are the greatest threat his unit faces. Not IEDs, I asked? Nope. While waiting to board the flight to BIAP, a Marine Major complained about how the progress in western Iraq has virtually gone unnoticed, and was furious over the characterization of the Devlin report on Anbar province. I gave him my card.

BIAP:

I had the pleasure being the only person on the shuttle bus from BIAP to Camp Stryker, and the driver, an Army specialist, struck up a conversation with me. I needed a SIM chip for my cell phone so I could call the States and in Iraq, so he took me across the base on some extremely bumpy roads looking for a place that sold them. During the drive, he explained his forays into Sadr City, how the residents were largely hostile to U.S. forces, and some engagements he's encountered. Yet he spoke admirably of the Iraqi people. He said they were hard working and willing to fight, and hoped we wouldn't abandon the Iraqi people.

We couldn't find an open store that sold the SIM chip, so he kindly offered to give me his as he knew I was desperate. I paid him for the card and a little extra to call home. He said he'll get a new card tomorrow.

Camp Stryker:

While waiting to catch the flight to the Green Zone, I spoke to two Army captains, one who works in Civil Affairs, the other with the Military Transition Teams. Both explained how the situation could look very different based on your job, but that the Iraqi police and Army were making real progress. They said the Iraqis' skills ranged from poor to excellent, but they always saw improvement.

I also overheard an Army specialist sitting behind me curse the media (and I mean curse), saying they didn't know what they were talking about when it came to Iraq. I talked to him, and explained I'm considered a reporter, and that I won't argue with his points. I made him uncomfortable. Had he known I was 'the press' I think he would have kept it to himself.

LZ Washington:

While waiting to manifest on the flight to Fallujah, CNN played a news segment of President Bush announcing there would be no “graceful exit” from Iraq, and that we'd stay until the mission was complete. Two sergeants in the room cheered. Loudly. They then scoffed at the reports from Baghdad, and jeered the balcony reporting.

In nearly every conversation, the soldiers, Marines and contractors expressed they were upset with the coverage of the war in Iraq in general, and the public perception of the daily situation on the ground. They felt the media was there to sensationalize the news, and several stated some reporters were only interested in “blood and guts.” They freely admitted the obstacles in front of them in Iraq. Most recognized that while we are winning the war on the battlefield, albeit with difficulties in some areas, we are losing the information war. They felt the media had abandoned them.

During each conversation, I was left in the awkward situation of having to explain that while, yes, I am wearing a press badge, I'm not 'one of them.' I used descriptions like 'independent journalist' or 'blogger' in an attempt to separate myself from the pack.

What a terrible situation to be in, having to defend yourself because of your profession. I've always said that the hardest thing about embedding (besides leaving my family) is wearing the badge that says 'PRESS.' That hasn't changed. I hide the badge whenever I can get away with it.

This isn't the first time I encountered this sentiment from the troops. I experienced this attitude from the Marines while I was in western Iraq last year, and the soldiers in the Canadian Army in Afghanistan also expressed frustration with the media's presentation of the war.

Perhaps this tension between the media and the military is nothing new. But it appalls me none the less.


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To: Txsleuth

Living with the Macacas!


341 posted on 12/07/2006 11:29:13 AM PST by hattend (Carpe Macaca)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
LOL!

Remember the Bi!#h slap heard 'round the world?


342 posted on 12/07/2006 11:30:04 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: hattend
ROFL!!!!!

F.Lee Levin is one of 'The Great Ones'............ Jackie was the FIRST!

:-)

343 posted on 12/07/2006 11:31:06 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Rick's got "Reagan" written all over him.

Just as the rest of the world is joyously bashing DR, Santorum goes out of his way to give him a thumbs up.
A real man. Wow, how often does that happen?

PA is just about hopeless.


344 posted on 12/07/2006 11:31:42 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: MaestroLC
I wish he would run for President!! I would run to the polls to vote for him!!!

Me too......... and he will.

345 posted on 12/07/2006 11:32:19 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Txsleuth

Mark will be off today & tomorrow. No word on the guest host yet.


346 posted on 12/07/2006 11:33:27 AM PST by MarkLevinFan
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To: HonestConservative

Yes, unfortunately our state is overpopulated with Union zombies and Social Security dependents.


347 posted on 12/07/2006 11:34:22 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: HonestConservative

I hope PA will be happy with their new empty suit...


348 posted on 12/07/2006 11:34:23 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Kerretarded

Impose curfew,

close borders, kill anything that moves across closed border,

raids,


349 posted on 12/07/2006 11:34:32 AM PST by Son House
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To: MarkLevinFan

We wish him well and need and want him fit as a fiddle and well rested.

The Lounge is a tough venue.


350 posted on 12/07/2006 11:35:05 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: rottndog

Did John Stossel ever press charges against that thug?


351 posted on 12/07/2006 11:36:59 AM PST by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yep.

The elderly people around here think that the world owe's them.

Repulsive bunch.


352 posted on 12/07/2006 11:37:24 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: rottndog
Is that Giraldo Hysteria?
353 posted on 12/07/2006 11:38:20 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Jesus is the reason for the season!)
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To: aligncare

I don't know if he filed charges, but he did sue and win. He had permanent damage to his hearing from that slap.


354 posted on 12/07/2006 11:38:29 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh, the parasites are looking to fatten up already.


355 posted on 12/07/2006 11:38:30 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: rottndog

I cannot figure out what this guy's point is.


356 posted on 12/07/2006 11:38:50 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: rottndog

Didn't know that. Thanks.


357 posted on 12/07/2006 11:39:11 AM PST by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: HonestConservative

It's all about the pork in PA.


358 posted on 12/07/2006 11:39:14 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Clint N. Suhks

John Stossel.

He was debunking "pro wrestling".


359 posted on 12/07/2006 11:39:24 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Bahbah

Is the caller a MOONBAT or snot?


360 posted on 12/07/2006 11:39:41 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Jesus is the reason for the season!)
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