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Pope hailed for praying toward Mecca like Muslims
Reuters ^ | December 1, 2006 | Philip Pullella and Tom Heneghan

Posted on 12/01/2006 7:10:53 AM PST by jan in Colorado

Pope Benedict ended a sensitive, fence-mending visit to Turkey on Friday amid praise for visiting Istanbul's famed Blue Mosque and praying there facing toward Mecca "like Muslims."

The Pope, who sparked protests across the Muslim world with a speech two months ago seen as criticizing Islam, looked relaxed and pleased as he entered the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit for a mass at the end of the four-day trip.

His first visit to a mostly Muslim country, held under tight security for fear of protests by nationalists and Islamists, was highlighted by a series of conciliatory gestures culminating in a stop on Thursday afternoon in Istanbul's famed Blue Mosque.

Istanbul Grand Mufti Mustafa Cagrici, who prayed with him there, said Benedict had faced Mecca and stood like Muslims do when they pray aright. "These were very nice gestures," he told NTV television.

"The Pope's dreaded visit was concluded with a wonderful surprise," wrote daily Aksam on its front page. "In Sultan Ahmet Mosque, he turned toward Mecca and prayed like Muslims," the popular daily Hurriyet said, using the building's official name.

Just before leaving, Benedict said he hoped his visit was seen as "a sign of friendship between religions" that helps bring countries and cultures closer together.

His gestures, including support for Ankara's bid to join the European Union and praise for Islam as a peaceful faith, seem to have persuaded the Turks to move beyond the tension following his speech quoting a Byzantine emperor as calling Islam violent.

But in Islam's Middle Eastern heartland, Arab commentators still call for Benedict to issue a full apology for his speech. Shocked by the protests it triggered, the Pope has said he did not agree with the controversial quote but has not apologized.

Catholic officials also presented the mosque visit as a key moment of reconciliation.

"I would compare the Pope's visit to the mosque to Pope John Paul's gestures at the Western Wall," said veteran Vatican mediator Cardinal Roger Etchegaray, referring to Pope John Paul II's prayers at Jerusalem's Western Wall in 2000.

"Yesterday, Benedict did with the Muslims what John Paul did with the Jews."

TRIP BRINGS OUT THE DIPLOMAT

Benedict told Istanbul Governor Muammer Guler at the city's airport before leaving for Rome that his visit to the Blue Mosque and the nearby Aya Sofya museum, once a Christian church and then a mosque, had "left a lasting impression" on him.

"A part of my heart stays here in Istanbul," he said, describing the city as "profoundly European" and a bridge between Europe and Asia. "I hope (my visit) "has the effect of bringing structures and civilizations progressively closer."

The trip brought out the diplomat in the theologian who was expected to take a tougher stand on Islam than his more outgoing predecessor John Paul.

Benedict did press during the trip for more freedom of religion in Turkey and by extension in other mostly Muslim countries, but not in the confrontational way some Church officials expected after he was elected Pope in April 2005.

About 30,000 of Turkey's 100,000 Christians are Roman Catholic, mostly living in Istanbul and Izmir.

There were only scattered protests against the visit


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; elvisbinladen; islam; istanbul; pope
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To: tdewey10
Color me dubious. I'd like to see something other than al-Reuters on this subject.

You should be dubious.

(1) In the Orthodox Christian East, the tradition in prayer is to face toward Jerusalem, where Christ died and rose from the dead.

(2) The Pope was there as a guest of the Ecumenical Patriarch of the Orthodox Christians.

(3) Mecca and Jerusalem are in almost the exact same direction from Constantinople if you look at a map.

(4) If the Pope is visiting a mosque, he is not going to turn his back on his hosts and face in a different direction to make a point.

21 posted on 12/01/2006 7:28:15 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: All
The Pope knows it doesn't matter which way he faces when he prays.

Our God is omnipotent and can hear our prayers no matter where we are, no matter what time of day, and no matter what direction we face!

22 posted on 12/01/2006 7:29:41 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: jan in Colorado

When I visited Istanbul years ago, we toured the Blue Mosque and St. Sofia's. Fascinating places. And yes, we women were required to cover our shoulders and we all had to take off our shoes. Some objected, but in my view, we were guests and as such, we should do our best not to offend our hosts -- emulating their traditions, if they don't cause any harm to us personally, seemed to be the right thing to do.

Of course, I'm reasonably sure that the Pope's gestures were exercises in politics and plain old schmoozing. But there was no harm in what he did and maybe he scored a few points. Only the radical fundamentalists would find fault.


23 posted on 12/01/2006 7:29:55 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

LOL!


24 posted on 12/01/2006 7:32:07 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: livius

I'm sure all of us, at one point in the day will "face Mecca" does that make us all devout Muslims?? Jeez, they are REALLY trying to make hay out of this one, aren't they ?


25 posted on 12/01/2006 7:32:14 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: hsmomx3

We are, and it's Islam.

Love your tag, by the way. Let's hope for no near fatal accidents or emergency surgeries next year!


26 posted on 12/01/2006 7:34:37 AM PST by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
Are you serious?
27 posted on 12/01/2006 7:35:36 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: fatnotlazy; All
Benedict did press during the trip for more freedom of religion in Turkey..."

This was the reason for his visit to Turkey; planned long before his truthful quote about Mohamed!

28 posted on 12/01/2006 7:36:53 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: mockingbyrd
Catholics, when praying in Church, also face east

In my present church I face south, the one before that south, the one before that south, the cathedral downtown east, the chapel at my kids' high school west, the basilica at Notre Dame north.

29 posted on 12/01/2006 7:36:59 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: agrace

I need to change my tag as they aren't doing very well this year.

I'm a convert as husband is from Pitt.


30 posted on 12/01/2006 7:37:07 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '07--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: wideawake

"(4) If the Pope is visiting a mosque, he is not going to turn his back on his hosts and face in a different direction to make a point."


Yeah, he'd probably end up with a knife in his back.


31 posted on 12/01/2006 7:37:50 AM PST by FarRightFanatic
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To: jan in Colorado

It's brilliant PR. He's in Turkey to challenge the state's inequal treatment of religions, but to do so in a genuine and non-threatening way. It takes a big man to make such a gesture. The message being, "If the Catholic pope can be respectful of Islam, why can't we be respectful of Catholics?"


32 posted on 12/01/2006 7:41:21 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Right Wing Assault
A few considerations:

(1) The "facing East" rule in Catholic church construction is considered preferable but not mandatory.

(2) Since the Second Vatican Council, new churches are built without any attention to this old principle.

(3) Even older churches have been renovated, with sanctuaries and altars removed or repositioned since the Second Vatican Council.

(4) Certain ethnic Catholic communties were more mindful of building churches in this orientation (Poles, Czechs) than others were (Irish, Germans).

33 posted on 12/01/2006 7:43:33 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Right Wing Assault

All Catholic Churches are supposed to face east. Running through my mind, I haven't been in one yet that doesn't.


34 posted on 12/01/2006 7:43:34 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Steel Wolf

This pope is no dummy. He is, in fact, quite the opposite.


35 posted on 12/01/2006 7:43:57 AM PST by Paradox (American Conservatives: Keeping the world safe for Liberalism.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Benedict did press during the trip for more freedom of religion in Turkey..."
This was the reason for his visit to Turkey; planned long before his truthful quote about Mohamed!


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And if nothing else was accomplished, at least Pope Benedict made some effort toward reconciling with the Orthodox. Someone remarked, during film of the two prelates standing together, that this was the closest the two faiths have been in a thousand years. That's saying something.


36 posted on 12/01/2006 7:44:06 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Patrick1

37 posted on 12/01/2006 7:44:45 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Steel Wolf
"If the Catholic pope can be respectful of Islam, why can't we be respectful of Catholics?"

Exactly!

(See my post #28)

38 posted on 12/01/2006 7:44:48 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: wideawake

Excellent points. The headline and thrust of the article by al-Reuters is what makes the story so annoying.

God Bless Pope Benedict.


39 posted on 12/01/2006 7:45:02 AM PST by karnage
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To: hsmomx3

or not.


40 posted on 12/01/2006 7:45:41 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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