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1 posted on 11/29/2006 3:01:48 PM PST by GQuagmire
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2 posted on 11/29/2006 3:03:09 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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...putting him in violation of a company policy forbidding employees to smoke on or off the job....
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Well, just another example of socialism working hard in the Peoples Republic of Mass --- trying to control what a person does when not on the job -- Karl Marx is smiling.


3 posted on 11/29/2006 3:03:55 PM PST by EagleUSA
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Good for him, I hope he can win!


4 posted on 11/29/2006 3:04:17 PM PST by blues_guitarist (I'm black so I can say it! . . . LOL!! . . . Hey Kool-aid!!!! . . . As in the days of Noah!)
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Condition of employment? That's what contracts are about.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns. NRA KMA


5 posted on 11/29/2006 3:05:48 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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Poor company policy >>>----> Law suit >>>----> Press coverage >>>----> Lost sales among smokers


7 posted on 11/29/2006 3:07:18 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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I read the article.

No mention that non-smokers and other healthy people have to pay higher insurance premiums at work for people like Rodrigues who smoke, or who eat like pigs are therefore weigh 400 pounds.

Where are the FReepers who argue that Massachusetss is an at-will employment state? Scott has the right to hire and fire whom they want to.

And Scott has the responsibility to be fair to all employees who want lower health care costs.

8 posted on 11/29/2006 3:11:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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I suppose some accounted figured that health insurance for non-smokers is cheaper, or some such thing.

Companies have a right to set their policies, if they are understood from the time of hiring. But this is pretty ridiculous. Reminds me of the employment situation in Kurt Vonnegut's "Player Piano."


10 posted on 11/29/2006 3:13:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Until this point "Civil Rights" has only covered circumstances that are beyond the control of a person such as race, ethnicity and physical disability. Thus if the plaintiff were to win this suit Civil Rights Protections will be extended to things that are voluntary such as smoking and sexual orientation.
12 posted on 11/29/2006 3:16:38 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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...putting him in violation of a company policy forbidding employees to smoke on or off the job....

That's outrageous. Smoking is not illegal and discriminating against someone for smoking at home is crazy. What you do in your private life that doesn't interfere with your ability to do your job should be no employers business.

13 posted on 11/29/2006 3:16:45 PM PST by MovementConservative (Getting back to principled conservatism.)
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So, on the same premise as firing a smoker....shouldn't it be legal to fire someone who is HIV-positive?


14 posted on 11/29/2006 3:16:58 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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a drug test showed nicotine in his urine

This could be interesting. He should claim that the nicotine got there from second hand smoke. Then we can break out the popcorn while the company lawyers call to the stand expert witnesses who testify that the second hand smoke danger is a myth, and defense lawyers counter with experts who swear it is a clear and present danger. This trial can have no bad outcome. If the defense wins the guy gets his job back plus back pay. If the company wins the second hand smoke myth is blown sky high.

16 posted on 11/29/2006 3:21:18 PM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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DUI of Nicotine is next.


19 posted on 11/29/2006 3:24:08 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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Dumb lawsuit. There is no such thing as a right to smoke.

The best he can hope for is to catch that SOB metrosexual owner of Scotts in Michigan where dueling is now legal.


21 posted on 11/29/2006 3:25:58 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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Does Scotts make the fertilizer that tobacco farmers use on their tobacco? Maybe they know something that the general public does not know. Maybe they don't want to be sued for making fertilizer loaded with toxins that are soaked up by tobacco and then inhaled/ingested into the systems of tobacco smokers/users.


23 posted on 11/29/2006 3:29:07 PM PST by petitfour
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Here is an example of one of the more extreme policies I've seen. Great company and products, just a bit over the top on tobacco. They're in a rural setting in So. NH.

http://www.kimballphysics.com/about_KPI/visits.htm#Tobacco%20Policies


32 posted on 11/29/2006 3:36:19 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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Scott's Lawn Products...........

I hope their ass is grass.

Leni

37 posted on 11/29/2006 3:40:39 PM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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Why do I get the impression that this is probably tied to a health care plan that the company pays for. The employee has agreed not to smoke for some reason.


38 posted on 11/29/2006 3:41:47 PM PST by RGSpincich
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I bet everyone that works there feels really good about themselves, being a better class of citizens and all.


66 posted on 11/29/2006 4:35:40 PM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn't really talk , he was hitting on my wife)
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Makes me doubly glad I fired them this summer for complete incompetence. They keep calling me begging me to come back even after repeatedly telling them I would never have anything to do with them again. Next time they come begging, I'll hit them with this too. Nazi's.


70 posted on 11/29/2006 4:44:32 PM PST by battletank
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Rodrigues said he decided to file suit because, "What's to make them stop at just cigarettes? If they're a Republican company, can they try and figure out who you vote for and if you vote for the Democrats they'll fire you? What if you don't want to hire women, so if you have Y chromosome in your drug test you fail?

Brilliant.

89 posted on 11/29/2006 5:09:23 PM PST by Young Scholar
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