Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: News Hunter

I wish they took it off altogether. Last time I checked "we" includes me and I don't trust in any god. Bring back our old motto and put that on the front.


2 posted on 11/27/2006 11:06:21 AM PST by Raymann
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last
To: Raymann

"I don't trust in any god"

I believe you can say that here. Better duck! ;)


4 posted on 11/27/2006 11:08:04 AM PST by leadpenny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

"In God We Trust", all others pay cash!


5 posted on 11/27/2006 11:09:41 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
I wish they took it off altogether. Last time I checked "we" includes me and I don't trust in any god. Bring back our old motto and put that on the front.

You could always sue for being so offended.

6 posted on 11/27/2006 11:10:30 AM PST by smith288
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

I was trying to be too cute too fast. Meant to say:

I don't believe you can say that here.


7 posted on 11/27/2006 11:11:20 AM PST by leadpenny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann; All

Well, obviously you are the only one whose wishes should matter when it comes to this issue. The rest of us who do believe in and trust in God are meaningless. /sarc off


8 posted on 11/27/2006 11:11:30 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
So atheism trumps theism?

Until the majority of us are atheists, in God we trust.
10 posted on 11/27/2006 11:13:11 AM PST by TeenagedConservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

I wish they would put it back on the front. "we" includes ME, and I DO trust God.

Keep the 1956 motto where it should be.


13 posted on 11/27/2006 11:14:11 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

You must be tons of fun on the witness stand.

How could anyone trust your word on anything?


21 posted on 11/27/2006 11:20:37 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org: Ecce Pactum, id cape aut id relinque)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
I wish they took it off altogether. Last time I checked "we" includes me and I don't trust in any god. Bring back our old motto and put that on the front.

So, your religious beliefs should trump my religious beliefs? Isn't that unconstitutional?

24 posted on 11/27/2006 11:21:55 AM PST by Washi (Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
I wish they took it off altogether. Last time I checked "we" includes me and I don't trust in any god.

Think of it this way. "God" means the greater good. When we engage in commerce, we have to trust that people will not do evil. We trust that they will not cheat us, that the goods are genuine, not stolen, that they will pay the bill and that the money is good. We trust that the goods they purchase will not be used for evil.

It means that commerce and the marketplace should be overseen by morality, not just profit.

29 posted on 11/27/2006 11:23:21 AM PST by Dan Evans
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

Last time I checked, the United States was governed by majority rule and the MAJORITY of the country is Christian.


31 posted on 11/27/2006 11:24:16 AM PST by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

Whether you bleeive in God or not- the majority of peopel do and we berleive that His blessings are on this country precisely because we Honor Him & don't particularly want to forego His blessings by kicking Him out of every aspect of our lives- We've SEEN what happens when nations have done that in the past & we do NOT wish that to happen to us. You can argue that God isn't involved in nations affairs- however, We have the evidence from past accounts on our side to refere to! http://sacredscoop.com


32 posted on 11/27/2006 11:24:25 AM PST by CottShop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
You may not presently believe in the One Who created -- and will judge -- your life but you wouldn't have a United States of America to live in, free, without His help, direction, and guidance at the inception and through all the struggles people have gone through to give you this land. I am sad that you don't know the One who loves You so much He died to save you from hell. I hope that changes before you leave this orb forever.
39 posted on 11/27/2006 11:27:11 AM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

Why are you so easily offended?


40 posted on 11/27/2006 11:27:17 AM PST by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
I wish they took it off altogether. Last time I checked "we" includes me and I don't trust in any god.

In that case, if you're a person of your convictions, you shouldn't accept any currency with that inscription, in which case, so as not to cause waste, you have my permission to forward it all to me ;-)

55 posted on 11/27/2006 11:34:58 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

I agree: Let's go with the original motto of the 13 colonies: "No King but Jesus!"


58 posted on 11/27/2006 11:37:39 AM PST by bagadonutz (The road goes on forever and the party never ends! - J E Keene)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann
I wish they took it off altogether. Last time I checked "we" includes me and I don't trust in any god. Bring back our old motto and put that on the front.

It must be nice to think that you and your opinion mean so much that you truly matter!

64 posted on 11/27/2006 11:41:42 AM PST by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

"In God, we trust, all others pay cash!"


96 posted on 11/27/2006 12:14:04 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

From the fourth and final stanza of The Star-Spangled Banner:

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto—“In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Francis Scott Key recognized "In God We Trust" as our national motto way back in 1814. And "In God We Trust" has graced our nation's coins since 1864. Sounds to me like it's the atheists, not the Christians and other deists, who are the johnnies-come-lately to this debate.


113 posted on 11/27/2006 12:37:31 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: Raymann

Got TONS more of this sort of HISTORICAL evidence but this should give you the basics -- assuming you have the desire to read it.

And here's something ELSE you'd better consider: If your RIGHTS are NOT GOD-GIVEN, about the only entity with the power to give and secure such rights is the STATE. And, since a STATE can take those rights back, you're on VERY SHAKY HISTORICAL GROUND.

Below find what a bunch of stupid old white guys had to say on the subject.


• “In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread sovereign, lord King James, by the grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, king, defender of the faith, etc., having undertaken for the glory of God and advancement of the Christian faith, and the honor of our king and country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia; so by these presents, solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof do enact, constitute and frame such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts. constitutions and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the eleventh of November, in the reign of our sovereign lord King James of England, France and Ireland, the eighteenth and of Scotland, the fifty fourth. Anno Domini, 1620.”
The Mayflower Compact

• “We, greatly commending and graciously accepting of their desires for the furtherance of so noble a work, which may, by the providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the glory of His Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian religion to such people, as yet live in darkness and miserable ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God,...”
From the First Charter of Virginia

• A nation of well informed men, who have been taught to know and to prize the rights God has given them, cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.
Benjamin Franklin

“When the religion of a people is destroyed, doubt gets hold of the higher powers of the intellect, and half paralyzes all the others. Every man accustoms himself to have only confused and changing notions on the subjects most interesting to his fellow-creatures and himself. His opinions are ill-defined and easily abandoned; and, in despair of ever solving by himself the hard problems respecting the destiny of man, he ignobly submits to think no more about them. Such a condition cannot but enervate the soul, relax the springs of the will, and prepare the people for servitude. Not only does this happen, in such a case, that they allow their freedom to be taken from them; they themselves frequently surrender it.”
---Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” (1840)


*I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...;in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution. Not until I went into her churches and saw pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. (Alexis de Tocqueville, 1840)

FOURTH—AND FORGOTTEN AND NOT PC—VERSE OF NATIONAL ANTHEM
“O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand Between their loved homes and war’s desolation Bles’t with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!””
Francis Scott Key

*There is not a truth to be gathered from history more certain, or more momentous, than this: That civil liberty cannot long be separated from religious liberty without danger, and, ultimately, without destruction of both. Wherever religious liberty exists, it will, first or last, bring in and establish political liberty. (Joseph Story, Supreme Court Justice, 1779 1845)


*"It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such
homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to Him.
This duty is precedent, both in order of time and degree of
obligation, to the claims of Civil Society. Before any man can
be considered as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered
as a subject of the Governor of the Universe." James Madison


*"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political
prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports."
George Washington

*"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: It
connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil
government with the principles of Christianity."
John Quincy Adams


123 posted on 11/27/2006 1:15:19 PM PST by Dick Bachert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson