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And when you're a teacher, prepare to be FReeper flamed...teachers here are treated worse than Democrats!

I agree. My daughter, niece, and two nephews, are teachers and darn good ones.

I once offered kudos to home-schoolers who have so much time to post on FR, and WOW....not a good thing to do. My daughter is a Conservative, as are many of her peers.

Underpaid, overworked, and bashed. I, for one, say THANK YOU to all of the good teachers in this country. They certainly aren't to get it on this message board.

Underpaid, overworked, and bashed ?

Sure, whatever you say. I suppose you think showing up at 7:30 AM, leaving at 4:00 PM, getting 90 minutes plus a lunch period during those 8.5 hours as "prep" time and all this only consuming 180 days a year is overworked ? Performing half a year's work at the equivalent pay of someone who doesn't get long Christmas, Easter or summer vacations ? Who also has tenure and can't be fired from their job no matter how poorly they perform ?

Lady, get a gander at the real world. We are all sick of the usual cry of boo hoo by public school teachers. Most of us in other professions work 2000 hours a year at work, not to mention unpaid overtime, and only get a few weeks plus the usual 12 national holidays off, for pay similar to teachers. Very few of us get the outstanding benefits including retirement packages given to public school teachers. Additionally, I don't know a single teacher who doesn't at least get COLA every year, whereas I know a lot of people in other professions who have taken pay cuts or lost their jobs since 2000.

Here in SE PA teachers with 20 years service and a master's degree in Ed. makes over $85 K not including benefits. That's underpaid ? In whose world ? If you think that's insufficient, get another job that where the pay is better. You are not forced to be a teacher.

If teachers would stop whining and teach, and accept that we resent that we are all forced to subsidize their product whether they are good at their profession or not, you would hear no complaints about teachers on this board.

You know.....meandog picked this fight.

If you are going to post an opinion hit piece by a janitor...and then spray NEA quotes, and basic propaganda..One would tend to expect rebuttal. I know I would.

meandog isn't stupid....he/she knew what they were posting.

But then whine and cry foul about getting "flamed"....is a joke.

I have no problem with GOOD teachers. I had a few myself, back in the day. The problem with good teachers is the situation in which they sometimes find themselves. They can get stuck in awful schools with administrators who care nothing about whether or not the kids are actually LEARNING anything, but who want to flirt with every new social idea coming down the pike and make sure the kids all know about it, whether it has any redeeming value or not. They are not supported by those same administrators when they try to control their classes, or try to enforce some order in their classrooms. And it must be extremely debilitating to stand in front of a classroom day after day and look at the faces of those very few who are interested, and the tops of the heads of the vast majority who are not.

Our older sons attended a private, Catholic all boys high school which was outstanding. They did very well, even though they chafed at the regimentation. When our younger two got to the 6th and 8th grades, we decided we'd had enough of school, because even the Catholic elementary schools were having problems with bullying, and our kids were dead bored. Our daughter homeschooled through high school, but we sent our youngest son to the high school our older ones attended. He stayed for two years, but we had gotten too used to the freedom that homeschooling allowed, so we brought him back home this year. He, and we, are much more relaxed and happy, and that young man is learning all kinds of cool stuff, mostly on his own, but with the US History and Lit, and Algebra II/Trig textbooks he has, as well. We also like him being with us because he's such a fun kid to talk to, with his inventive ideas and his opinions. He gets along well with most everyone he knows, but especially adults, because he can hold an intelligent conversation with them.