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Give Thanks To Who? New US Coins Hide "In God We Trust"
Raiders News Network ^ | Nov 22nd, 2006 | Jet in Columbus

Posted on 11/26/2006 9:44:48 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed

Remember the Eisenhower Dollar? Now that was a dollar’s dollar. It was twice as big as a quarter and felt heavier than it really was and when you had one in your pocket, you knew it was there. One of the reasons that later dollar-coin attempts failed was that their size shrank to smaller than a 50-cent piece. This caused the Susan B. Anthony coin to be nicknamed the “Carter Quarter” because so many people were spending them as 25-cent pieces by mistake.

Despite past failures, the U.S. Mint announced at a ceremony at The Smithsonian Institution on Monday that they would try again. They will begin circulating a new dollar coin on February 15, 2007. It will still be the same size as the 1979 Susan B. Anthony and the 2000-2002 Sacajawea. The coin will also be made of the same gold colored material as the Sacajawea with an additonal compound added to the metal to keep it from tarnishing as fast as its predecessor did.

The new dollars are set to feature the past Presidents of the United States in order from George Washington to Richard M. Nixon. Instead of a textured or ridged edge, the smooth rim will now hold such features as the mintmark, the date of striking, and the mottos “In God We Trust” and "E Pluribus Unum.” The design change is intended to allow space for larger portraits of the Presidents on the obverse side, and the Statue of Liberty on the reverse.

For the first time the coin will say “$1” instead of “One Dollar.”

The criteria for the presidents is that they must have been dead two years to be featured, so the current list will end at Richard M. Nixon. Grover Cleveland will actually be featured on two different coins because he held office in two non-consecutive terms.

The coins will be distributed every three months starting next year with Washington. Despite the fact that the mint has a three-and-a-half year stockpile of over $200 million worth of the Sacajawea coins, political pressure will force them to continue minting the Sacajawea coins at the same time.

The current distribution schedule is for each coin to be circulated for three months, and then the next will appear in sequence as follows:

2007

George Washington John Adams Thomas Jefferson James Madison

2008

James Monroe John Quincy Adams Andrew Jackson Martin Van Buren

2009

William Henry Harrison John Tyler James K. Polk Zachary Taylor

2010

Millard Fillmore Franklin Pierce James Buchanon Abraham Lincoln

2011

Andrew Johnson Ulysses S. Grant Rutherford B. Hayes James A. Garfield

2012

Chester A. Arthur Grover Cleveland Benjamin Harrison Grover Cleveland

2013

William McKinley Theodore Roosevelt William H. Taft Woodrow Wilson

2014

Warren Harding Calvin Coolidge Herbert Hoover Franklin D. Roosevelt

2015

Harry S. Truman Dwight D. Eisenhower John F. Kennedy Lyndon B. Johnson

2016

Richard M. Nixon

The paper U.S. dollar bill has always been a problem for the mint. A coin is more durable and lasts longer, making it more cost effective. However since the demise of the Eisenhower Dollar coin, the public has mostly rejected all of its smaller replacements. It is speculated that replacing the dollar bill with a coin could save the U.S. $500 million annually in printing costs, not counting the periodic security redesigns. Canada and various European countries have successfully eliminated their basic currency paper notes, but resistance is strong against such a move by the United States. An additional factor in the opposition of a dollar coin replacing the paper bill is that a stack of $100 in “singles” is relatively light, compared to a pocket weighed down by the same amount of coins.

Some have speculated that the new coins were intentionally designed to go directly into collections, instead of everyday commerce, making the U.S. dollar more scarce and thus more valuable. Other studies have shown that the only way the American public would accept dollar coins is if the paper currency were completely taken out of circulation.

The timing would seem to indicate that the announcement was held up until after the November 2006 elections. The religious right wing of the Republican Party is sure to be outraged when they notice that “In God We Trust,” while still on the coin, is no longer featured prominently.

In a side announcement, there will also be a release of 24-karat $10 pieces featuring the First Ladies at the end of 2007, and also the penny will be redesigned four times in 2009 to honor Abraham Lincoln.


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To: John Williams
And it'll be just as much of a failure as the last two. They simply don't get it -- make it the size of the Eisenhower dollar and people just might accept it instead of shun it.

The best argument for $1 coins is vending machines (and they are, last I heard the biggest lobby for them.) The Ike coin won't fit in the coin slots, and 25+ years are invested in the SBA/Sac weight/size/thickness. Canada has big clunky $1 and $2 coins (Loonies and toonies). They are miserable to carry around.
21 posted on 11/26/2006 10:15:57 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: SmoothTalker; killjoy
Look at a dollar bill. Yes it says "one dollar" but the number one appears in all four corners of both sides in large text! There is nothing confusing about it.

Actually, I think Killjoy meant pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters. Foreigners still manage to get ones and tens confused. They are used to monopoly style multi-coloured money.
22 posted on 11/26/2006 10:19:01 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: sittnick
I seem to remember that some gas pumps in the early '80's had a problem with the .9 when the pumps had to go past $1 per gallon,and .8 was used.

The old mechanical display gas pumps could only display prices between 0.0 and 99.9 cents per gallon. The workaround was to set the price per gallon to half of the sales price, then multiply the displayed total price by 2 to get the amount you owed the gas station. If you got 10 gallons of unleaded that was priced at $1.338, the meter on the pump would read a price 66.9¢ per gallon and a total of $6.69. When you paid that, $6.69 would be doubled to $13.38.

23 posted on 11/26/2006 10:26:10 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: sittnick; SmoothTalker
Actually, I think Killjoy meant pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters. Foreigners still manage to get ones and tens confused.

Correct. The US is the only country I know of that refuses to put numerical values on coins. I have no idea how this tradition started but this change is long past due.

24 posted on 11/26/2006 10:32:05 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Talk about a waste of resources. Make 2009 the last penny, and put Lincoln on the $5 coin.

I'm with you on that. I hate pennies and said 20 years ago we should get rid of them.

25 posted on 11/26/2006 10:34:45 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: sittnick

You let the machine do the rounding, just as calculators do.


26 posted on 11/26/2006 10:36:53 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: stylin19a

Coinage is and always has been far easier to counterfeit than currency, going back AT LEAST as far as the first paper notes in England 300-odd years ago. What the devil are you talking about?


27 posted on 11/26/2006 11:32:12 PM PST by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: sittnick

Don't forget parking meters. Using dollar coins instead of quarters would be a help.


28 posted on 11/26/2006 11:37:20 PM PST by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: killjoy

If the coins are big enough, I don't see a problem with words. But, yeah, with the size of these new coins, writing on them would just be a little silly.


29 posted on 11/26/2006 11:44:21 PM PST by Aussieteen
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To: Paleo Conservative

William Henry Harrison gets a coin but Reagan does not!


Outrage.


30 posted on 11/26/2006 11:58:08 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: Aussieteen
"24-karat $10 pieces "


Doesnt a penny weigh about 1 gram ( ~ 1/28th ounce)
and 1 troy ounce = 31.1034768 grams and with Gold now about $640/oz that $10 coin will be pretty small

(considering gold is denser than copper/zinc)


That thing will be positively dinky (but then its a commemorative ....)





Oh, they forgot to mention that there will be a 3 dollar bill with Bill 'BJ' Clinton on it.
31 posted on 11/27/2006 12:03:18 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Ruth A.

"Don't forget parking meters. Using dollar coins instead of quarters would be a help."

Parking meters are long gone in many cities. Now they have stations on each block where you can use credit cards (or money) to buy parking slips you place on the dashbord.


32 posted on 11/27/2006 12:06:18 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

"They are going to reintroduce GOLD COINS!!!??"

You can buy gold coins from the US mint.


33 posted on 11/27/2006 12:08:37 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: stylin19a
"It also takes all the 3rd world armipit forgeries out of the picture. Makes a bazillion 100 bills worthless."

Why couldn't they manufacture fake coins just like the fake dollar bills.

34 posted on 11/27/2006 12:11:02 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: wodinoneeye

The gold coins are not sold at their face value. The face value is for historical interest. The coins are sold to collectors and investors by their weight: 1/10th, 1/4th, 1/2, and 1 oz.


35 posted on 11/27/2006 12:11:23 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

Also, there are "golden" coins with a golden finish, but don't confuse those with actual gold coins.


36 posted on 11/27/2006 12:13:06 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
They are going to reintroduce GOLD COINS!!!??


37 posted on 11/27/2006 12:39:11 AM PST by Tinian
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To: Kirkwood

The mint has been issuing coins made of gold which are money, and not commemoratives? What are the dollar amounts now in circulation, and what images are on them?


38 posted on 11/27/2006 12:44:56 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I went down in 1964 for Barry Goldwater with all flags flying! This is just a blip!)
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To: killjoy
Correct. The US is the only country I know of that refuses to put numerical values on coins. I have no idea how this tradition started but this change is long past due.

UK:




Canada:


Notice something missing? Granted, the UK and Canada do include Hindu Arabic numbers on some other coins. The United Arab Emirates, on the other hand (for example) - lets just say their coins don't use the Arabic numbers we're used to:


(The coins actually use Eastern Arabic numerals, not Hindu Arabic numerals)
39 posted on 11/27/2006 12:55:24 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Notice something missing? Granted, the UK and Canada do include Hindu Arabic numbers on some other coins.

Yes, on those particular coins there is no numeric number, but there is on the other denomination coins. My point is the US is the only country who does this consistently on all coins.

40 posted on 11/27/2006 1:10:23 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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