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U.S. legislator(Tom Tancredo) warns of Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico
Canada.com ^ | November 21, 2006 | Beth Gorham

Posted on 11/22/2006 5:29:38 AM PST by Dane

Beth Gorham, The Canadian Press Published: Tuesday, November 21, 2006

WASHINGTON -- A U.S. legislator who backs tough anti-immigrant measures and more security at the Canada-U.S. border is warning Americans that President George W. Bush is plotting to integrate the continent.

And he says Prime Minister Stephen Harper “buys into it.”

Colorado Republican Tom Tancredo, revered by some U.S. conservatives for his efforts to staunch the flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico, said this week that Bush is a dangerous internationalist.

“He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that, it’s an idea. It’s not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where the guy is really going,” he told WorldNetDaily, a controversial conservative website.

“I know this is dramatic, or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic. But I’m telling you that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American union, it’s not something that’s just written about by right-wing fringe kooks,” said Tancredo, who is considering a run at the presidency.

“It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it...”

Tancredo followed up with an interview on the conservative Fox News network, where he said the borders will lose all their significance, serving merely as “speed bumps” in the flow of goods, services and people.

In October, Tancredo demanded the United States suspend work on the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) signed last year by Canada, Mexico and The United States until Congress examines its goals and agreements, which include standardizing regulations and dismantling other barriers to trade.

The deal to collaborate on a wide range of trade and security issues is part of a larger plot to merge the countries in a European Union-like arrangement using a common currency, he said, with no oversight from legislators.

The congressman, who wrote a book on the border security issue called “In Mortal Danger,” is one of four members of Congress who’ve signed a resolution opposed to a union or a free trade “superhighway system.”

They’re not the only ones worried about closer ties between the three countries.

A coalition of American conservatives is organizing a grassroots effort to make it an issue in the 2008 presidential race and vow to campaign against any candidate, Republican or Democrat, who won’t side with them.

The movement was spearheaded in October by Howard Phillips, chairman of the public policy group Conservative Caucus, anti-feminist activist Phyllis Schlafly and author Jerome Corsi.

The group is calling for a congressional investigation into the SPP and full disclosure of all documents when the new Congress run by Democrats begins in January. They’re getting support from the Minuteman Project that monitors the borders to deter illegal crossings, a group Bush has called vigilantes.

Supporters of the anti-union stand point out that a prominent three-country task force backed by Canada’s business elite has promoted an elaborate vision of a common economy and security perimeter.

The plan, released last year, drew fire from some Canadians who saw it as a dangerous surrender of sovereignty designed to benefit big business.

Tancredo, who has often talked about the “porous” Canada-U.S. border, stirred up controversy last year when he mused on a Florida radio show that America could destroy Islamic holy sites like Mecca if there’s another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

While beloved by many right-wingers and immigration hawks, Tancredo was recently labelled one of the 10 worst congressmen by Rolling Stone magazine.

The publication noted he wants to deport every undocumented worker in the United States, a proposal that would cost at least US$200 billion, and has called for halting all immigration, legal or otherwise.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government
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To: Miss Marple
Hello madam Hillary.

I've been saying someone of Tancredo's stylings will run for awhile now. This is why it is SO CRITICAL that the repubs DO NOT nominate a moderate such as McCain, Guiliani, Romney, Rice.....ect. A Tancredo (or similar 3rd party) candidacy is the ONLY WAY Hillary can win in '08. Her husband never got over 49% of the vote and she won't even come close to that but 42% could be enough to win in a 3 way race.

21 posted on 11/22/2006 5:45:00 AM PST by nitzy (It is never right to do the wrong thing for political expedience.)
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To: Brilliant

My idea is to trade New England to Canada for everything west of Ontario. It would be a fair trade for both sides and would leave both sides happy.

No thanks.


22 posted on 11/22/2006 5:45:10 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: Dane

why not just merge those nations into our nation as new states. (or more accuratly their provinces as out states)

Essentially abolish the canadian federal gov in favor of the USA's.

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org


23 posted on 11/22/2006 5:46:31 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Dane
The plan, released last year, drew fire from some Canadians who saw it as a dangerous surrender of sovereignty designed to benefit big business.

This Plan WILL be opposed by many in Canada, especially those 3 million or so French Canadians in the Province of Quebec.

They are rabidly provincial and desire to hold on to their French Canadian heriage, traditions, customs, etc. (for which I admire them, though disagree wholly on their politics) at any costs.

They are very envious of us, dislike us, and while they tolerate us, would as soon become Moozies before joining forces with this "evil" Country.

Believe me I know: Both my parents were born in Montreal, have spent a lot of time there (having formerly grown up in Vermont) and still have many relatives in Quebec.

Of course their MSM is even more to the left than ours, thus who knows what they are being informed (or kept in the dark) regarding this matter, much the same as our MSM is avoiding publicizing this issue.

24 posted on 11/22/2006 5:47:06 AM PST by Traditional Vet
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To: rovenstinez

Nor would the Indians in Canada. Or the Frenchies.


25 posted on 11/22/2006 5:49:34 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: AmericaUnited
It is no accident that this unmatched potential for progress and prosperity exists in three countries with such long-standing heritages of free government.

Do you think Reagan actually believed that Mexico had a "long-standing heritage of free government"?

26 posted on 11/22/2006 5:51:06 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
Do you think Reagan actually believed that Mexico had a "long-standing heritage of free government"?

Then why would Ronald Reagan say that in a public speech.

27 posted on 11/22/2006 5:52:14 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: nitzy
A Tancredo (or similar 3rd party) candidacy is the ONLY WAY Hillary can win in '08. Her husband never got over 49% of the vote and she won't even come close to that but 42% could be enough to win in a 3 way race.

Yup, these people will be USEFUL IDIOTS for Hitlery. If Satan himself ran in 08 against Hitlery, I would vote for him and drag all of my friends and relatives to the polls to do likewise.

28 posted on 11/22/2006 5:53:09 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited; Reaganfan
Pingaroony to Reagan Fan to reply #14 of this thread.

AU, Reagan Fan considers himelf the omnipotent expert on Ronald Reagan.

And anybody who says Ronald Reagan was a "free traitor" is considered a heretic.

29 posted on 11/22/2006 5:55:21 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Then why would Ronald Reagan say that in a public speech.

I have no idea why he said it. I also don't know why anybody would say that Mexico has a long-standing heritage of free government.

30 posted on 11/22/2006 5:57:01 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
Do you think Reagan actually believed that Mexico had a "long-standing heritage of free government"?

Well, he did have a reputation as being a tricky deceiver and word parser...NOT!

The term "free government" is somewhat relative. When Mexico's system is compared to the Cold War era Soviet Union, then yes, it is.

31 posted on 11/22/2006 5:57:03 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: DumpsterDiver
I have no idea why he(Ronald Reagan) said it. I also don't know why anybody would say that Mexico has a long-standing heritage of free government.

Well gee DD, isn't time for you and Tom tancredo to chuck Ronald Reagan, for his political "hereacy".

32 posted on 11/22/2006 5:59:08 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
"I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it.."

Total, utter BS. A non-starter, really.

33 posted on 11/22/2006 6:00:11 AM PST by balk (thefightnetwork.com)
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To: rovenstinez

I doubt SERIOUSLY that the people of Mexico will go along with this...


There are groups in Canada trying to shoot this down. In America, it's just a conspiracy therory. Just ask the person who posted this thread.


34 posted on 11/22/2006 6:00:36 AM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: Miss Marple
Tancredo is accusing the Bush administration of taking the Reagan position on Canada and Mexico.

Click here for the Reagan proposal on open borders with Mexico and Canada

More on Reagan's position on free trade and open borders

The anti illegal immigration candidates did not do well in the last election. The House of representatives went to great lengths to earn the support of the anti illegal immigration voters. They passed the border bill the anti's wanted in December of 2005. The voters defeated enough Republicans in the House so that there are now enough votes to offer illegal immigrants amnesty and citizenship.

If the voters supported a closed border with Mexico and a return of illegal immigrants to Mexico the Republicans would have held the house.

It is interesting to note that in 2004 President Bush got 35 percent of the Hispanic vote. In 2006 the Republicans got 30 percent of the Hispanic vote. Had the Republicans gotten 35 percent or more of the Hispanic vote they would have held on to both houses of Congress.

Tancredo will lave less effect on the 2008 election than Pat Buchanan did in 2000. Pat got way less than one half of one percent of the vote in 2000.

Every time I have asked anti illegal immigration posters why they are opposed to the illegal immigration from Mexico they say that terrorists may come through the border and they say are not opposed to legal immigration, just illegal immigration.

When I ask them if they would support the same regulations for Mexican border crossing as is in effect for Canadian border crossing they are opposed to granting to Mexicans the same privileges granted to Canadians.

Most of them do not know that we have an open border with Canada. Canadian citizens can come into the USA and live where they choose and work where they please.

When I point out that far more terrorists have been found trying to enter the USA from Canada than Mexico.. they still want Mexicans barred.

Tancredo like many less than bright people panders to the voters making the most noise. The noisiest voters rarely represent many votes.

35 posted on 11/22/2006 6:00:47 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: AmericaUnited; DumpsterDiver
The term "free government" is somewhat relative. When Mexico's system is compared to the Cold War era Soviet Union, then yes, it is.

And if you look at Mexican election standards, such as showing an ID to vote, they are miles ahead of the US.

36 posted on 11/22/2006 6:00:56 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Well gee DD, isn't time for you and Tom tancredo to chuck Ronald Reagan, for his political "hereacy"

What the hell are you talkng about, Dane?

37 posted on 11/22/2006 6:02:08 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Miss Marple
"Tancredo will make a third party run,..."

The Ross Perot of the 21st Century. If he can't get his way, he will make everyone suffer!

38 posted on 11/22/2006 6:02:10 AM PST by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de America, invasor!)
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To: DumpsterDiver
What the hell are you talkng about, Dane?

Uh that according to your own rhetoric on FR, that Ronald Reagan is an OBL "free traitor".

39 posted on 11/22/2006 6:04:29 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane; All
I don't want to see a conservative 3rd party for obvious reasons but I don't understand your point. Do you think there is no such thing as CFR which has more influence yet a different agenda than the U.S. voters? Do you not know about the NAFTA superhighway in Texas? Are you uninformed of the FTAA? If you acknowledge these things exist do you support them? If you do not support them, do you understand that Bush and the industrial elite from around the continent do? In what regard is Tancredo wrong? Or do you just like sniping at him?
40 posted on 11/22/2006 6:07:05 AM PST by nitzy (It is never right to do the wrong thing for political expedience.)
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