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1 posted on 11/22/2006 5:27:31 AM PST by kellynla
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2 posted on 11/22/2006 5:28:23 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi)
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Charlie continues to live in his "class-envy" fantasy world.


3 posted on 11/22/2006 5:28:52 AM PST by rhombus
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I fought in Afghansitan - BME, MSME and MBA. I took a pay cut for year to be there. He can kiss my Slovakian @ss.
4 posted on 11/22/2006 5:29:20 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Sorry Charlie, your own party isn't going to even that that balloon go into the air.


5 posted on 11/22/2006 5:29:30 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2407


Democrat Plan Summarized in One Word: Draft
by Scott Ott

(2006-11-20) — Rep. Charles Rangel, D-NY, yesterday unveiled the Democrat plan for boosting the minimum wage, providing free healthcare to millions more Americans, increasing college attendance, reducing greenhouse gas emissions and preventing future U.S. wars of aggression.

“Our plan is so simple and elegant that it can be stated in one word — draft,” said Rep. Rangel. “By implementing a military draft, we’ll provide a living wage and free healthcare to our new involuntary soldiers and their families, plus we’ll give them college money after their term of service.”

The New York Democrat, who has proposed a draft several times before, said taking many of the 18-to-26 year-olds off the nation’s highways will decrease the number of automobile fatalities and drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The most crucial element of the Draft America Plan, he said, is creation of a huge military force comprised of less-motivated troops in case the president must decide whether to go to war with North Korea or Iran, or to expand the global war on terror in other lands.

“Right now, it’s the skill and passion of our all-volunteer force that gives George Bush the arrogance to challenge our enemies on their soil,” Rep. Rangel said. “With a military full of reluctant conscripts, Bush won’t be so cocky. We’ll be safer because, as we all know, when American troops stay home fewer terrorists are created.”


6 posted on 11/22/2006 5:31:14 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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The great majority of people bearing arms for this country in Iraq are from the poorer communities in our inner cities and rural areas

This is his core argument.

Factually, it is demonstrably false.

Logically, if it were true it would still not justify a draft.

7 posted on 11/22/2006 5:31:38 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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Why I Want the Draft by Charles Rangel: "So we can say it's Bush's Fault."

That's it, plain and simple.

8 posted on 11/22/2006 5:32:44 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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Charlie is more full of sh*t than tomorrow's Thanksgiving turkey.


10 posted on 11/22/2006 5:35:27 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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Uh, Charlie, your plan was already brought up for a vote. YOU VOTED NO ON YOUR OWN BILL. Shut up already.


11 posted on 11/22/2006 5:35:29 AM PST by xjcsa (Stop global climate stagnation!)
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Rangel--Another race-baiter/pimp, and a deluded Korean War Vet who should be seen by the VA for his mental problems: Racism, and the illusion that the Draft would solve any problem.


12 posted on 11/22/2006 5:36:02 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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did charlie ever say why he didn't want the draft in the 1960's?

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS


13 posted on 11/22/2006 5:37:11 AM PST by ripley
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I continue to believe that decision-makers would never have supported the invasion if more of them had family members in line for deployment.

While this is probably true, when in the history of this country has their even been a draft you couldn't buy, beg, or bum your way out of? Or is Rangel proposing a draft with zero exemptions? If not, all he's doing is drawing unwilling poor people into the meat grinder. How is that more fair?

Those who do the fighting have no choice; when the flag goes up, they salute and follow orders.

No one made them enlist, and stop-loss notwithstanding, no one keeps them in past the end of their contract. If you want to take the tax free reup money, it's your choice.

14 posted on 11/22/2006 5:37:43 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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Those who do the fighting have no choice; when the flag goes up, they salute and follow orders. So far, more than 2,800 have died and 21,000 have been wounded. They are our unrecognized American heroes.

Hey scumbag... the only ones that don't "recognize American heroes" are sorry ares twerps like you. NO ONE has forced any of these "heroes: to 'V~O~L~U~N~T~E~E~R'" to fight hence they DID and DO have a choice.

Rome's burning folks.

18 posted on 11/22/2006 5:41:04 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn.)
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Beneath that painted on smile beats the heart of a flaming racist caught in a time warp.


19 posted on 11/22/2006 5:41:07 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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Poor, old Charlie...off his meds...again. Nobody really takes this moron seriously, but, like Ronald McDonald, he has an audience to play to.


20 posted on 11/22/2006 5:41:16 AM PST by GoldenPup
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LBJ gave the draft a bad name with his phoney war and Nixon was forced to go along with doing away with the it in a knee-jerk reaction to the Left.

The corruption should have been taken out of the system but doing away with the draft was a mistake.

Oh, and 18-year-old women should have to register along with the men.

Gobble, gobble!


22 posted on 11/22/2006 5:44:07 AM PST by leadpenny
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I had noted Rangel's repeated calls for a draft over the past few years, but never looked into his reasons. I had given him credit for wanting to encourage broad-based national service, but reading what he writes here, he is clearly challenging the President to call for a draft specifically for the current military operations only. I don't buy the class conflict stuff he puts out, but the idea of just about everyone being called upon to perform some kind of service to their country might not be a bad one (even though it restricts freedom). But not just for an emergency period, but ongoing, something people would grow up expecting to happen. The draft during Vietnam was not an ad hoc policy, as I recall. There had been a draft all through the 1950's and into the 60's. Getting rid of the idea of (sort of) universal service by ending the draft was a reaction to our problems in Vietnam, a way of reducing the political heat, and, looking back, I think we made a mistake in ever getting rid of it.


23 posted on 11/22/2006 5:45:00 AM PST by Stirner
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Sometimes my tagline is the only appropriate response to a particular article.


26 posted on 11/22/2006 5:46:48 AM PST by logos (There's a lot of stupidity out there...)
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...more than 2,800 have died and 21,000 have been wounded. They are our unrecognized American heroes.

Unrecognized by liberals. We conservatives have been shoutring our thanks and admiration for years, Charlie.

34 posted on 11/22/2006 5:53:27 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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I like the idea of draft, but then I think kids should get the equivalent of Basic Training in High School, and fulfill a civic service requirement (including, but not limited to, military service) before they can vote, hold office, attend a military academy, or get a government college loan.
37 posted on 11/22/2006 5:56:22 AM PST by Little Ray
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