Posted on 11/15/2006 10:57:01 AM PST by Seven Minute Maniac
I am a student. I personally do not support homosexuality, and I find the idea of gay marriage repulsive. However, I struggle during discussions to persuade my liberal peers and professors that it is harmful. Most liberal professors and students at my college do not view homosexuality as abnormal, and treat me like I am nuts when I suggest that marriage should not be altered to include gays and lesbians. Please help to supply me with some ammunition by posting below.
This would suggest sexual identity problems at both extremems of the spectrum, IMHO.
"Were you sucked into this thread?"
No, I voice my opinions here willingly.
"just because you cannot see the potential damage to our culture and society that destroying the most basic framework of civiliation will have, doesn't mean others don't."
One more time, I'll ask -> How does it affect me in the least little bit if the two gay guys that have lived monogomously across the street from me for the last five years get a legal marriage? If it doesn't affect me, living right in the middle of ground zero for the gay community, how is this going to unravel the very fabric of civilization?
For centuries people have asked what would it hurt if...And unfortunately they find that it never stops at that. Would you agree that if a man and his 4 "wives" have been living together in harmony for many years, he should be able to legally marry them all? I mean it doesn't affect me, so...
Elaborate, please.
For the crowd that believes the only purpose for getting married is to have children, I'd say they should probably support the polygamy concept.
So, whats the next step in this vast homosexual conspiracy that is obvious to everyone but me, if gay marriage is accepted? You mean to tell me that eventually theres goign to be a cry for legislation to make homosexual mandatory?
Ask Sodom what's wrong with gay marriage, ie: read the Bible.
That gay men apparently are immune to caring about fidelity at all, whereas lesbians apparently are obsessed with it [ref. remark made that they are highly jealous and possessive.]
Homosexual group's own study reveals health risks of gay lifestyle
Same-Sex ‘Marriage’ a Health Risk Doctors Warn Parliamentarians
We have laws to protect people, which is why a 12 yr old can't get married - they are children and not fully aware of their actions and consequences. Do you think your examples are really on par with the scenario of two consenting adults?
"The anicient Athenians would stone to death sodomites caught with children. "
Conversely, the Spartans actually encouraged the practice as a means of fostering closer personal ties within a military unit, a prime requirement for military discipline in the phalanx. The amount of sodomy in the Spartan military academies was legendary,and there are thousands of written accounts on the very subject (homosexuality as a military training tool).
I would suggest that you find another historical example to make your argument.
P.S. I'm not in favor of homosexual marriage, just being intellectually honest, that's all, PROMISE!
Homosexual couples living as though they were marriage will likely not affect your marriage or mine. My wife and I have been together too long, and I would reckon you and your as well, to be affected by such, but it will affect society as a whole.
When social stigma is removed from an activity, you have more of that activity. A greater frequency of an activity will encourage others to participate in that activity (yes, even homosexuality if the stigma is replace with an air of acceptance and normalcy.)
Homosexual marriages will lessen the worth of real marriages and you will have less of them. Also, this acceptance and normalcy will be taught to children through school or TV. They might be your kids, they might not be, but they will be members of society nonetheless. If you don't believe schools can influence behavior look at tobacco usage in the last 30 years. (And please don't tell me you believe you can shield your child or the millions of others in this nation from this)
Homosexual "marriage" may not affect you directly, but it will have a lasting and serious impact on society as a whole. To suggest otherwise is either willful ignorance or blind stupidity.
Please look at a few of the links posted in this thread. Here's one to start you off.
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=8
My husband and I never intended to create a baby, and now after 20 years of marriage, it's a moot point. I guess the whole reason for our marriage has ended.
but did you have the ABILITY to create one?
We never tested it. I don't know.
"Since my wife and I have decided not to have any children, we are not considered married?"
In the past, like it or not, you would be considered married but selfish.
It's your decision, as far as I am concerned. The majority of married couples do produce children. The institution of marriage is big enough and broad enough to include couples who, for various reasons, do not produce children. These couples can include the elderly and infertile couples. It would not be practicle to exclude all heterosexual couples who do not have children from the institution of marriage. The point is that all of these couples are male-female and do not seriously undermine the basic rules of marriage. (The rules also include prohibitions against marrying close relatives and those who are underage. These rules also essentially revolve around procreation.)
"One more time, I'll ask -> How does it affect me in the least little bit if the two gay guys that have lived monogomously across the street from me for the last five years get a legal marriage? If it doesn't affect me, living right in the middle of ground zero for the gay community, how is this going to unravel the very fabric of civilization? "
It's not just about you. Try thinking in broader terms, beyond yourself. If you are unable to avert your gaze from the mirror, then think about how much more health insurance will cost you if homosexuals are entitled to health insurance for their "spouses" with AIDS.
Do you have children? It sounds as if you don't. If so, do you want them sexualized by the gay lobby? If you don't, do you care about children? They are the entire future.
Other people can add to this if they want to. It's late; I'm tired.
Monogamy dednotes a biological procreation... they had a turd baby???
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