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Document shows Bush guided CIA on detention
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Posted on 11/15/2006 12:13:18 AM PST by Omega Man II

Document shows Bush guided CIA on detention

By David Johnston

The New York Times

The Central Intelligence Agency has acknowledged for the first time the existence of two classified documents, including one signed by President George W. Bush, that have guided the agency's interrogation and detention of terror suspects.

The CIA disclosed the existence of the documents in a letter Friday sent from the agency's associate general counsel, John McPherson, to lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union.

The contents of the documents were not revealed, but one document, as described by the ACLU, is "a directive signed by President Bush granting the CIA the authority to set up detention facilities outside the United States and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees."

The second document, according to the group is a Justice Department legal analysis "specifying interrogation methods that the CIA may use against top Al Qaeda members."

ACLU lawyers said they would now press for public disclosure of the contents of the documents

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To: Lancey Howard

I'm with you on this. The moonbats of the dem party will be disappointed, but it won't happen. President Bush and his administration will be beaten up, though, to look like the dems are doing something.


21 posted on 11/15/2006 12:59:58 AM PST by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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To: Omega Man II

Who does the CIA work for again? What part of classified do they not understand?


22 posted on 11/15/2006 12:59:59 AM PST by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"...an FBI agent was quoted as saying the U.S. would need to experience more massive acts of terror on its soil before it would ever wake up to the fact we are at war.

I so agree with that statement. It's sad to say, but I guess losing "only" 3000 innocent Americans isn't enough. It'll have to be big and horrific, and even then they'd probably forget about it after 10 years.

Liberals are like dumb teenagers stuck in a time warp - they think they know it all, and the rest of us can't wait for them to grow up.

23 posted on 11/15/2006 1:02:23 AM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: BlackJack

So as not to offend Mexican politicians and U.S. Hispanic voters and because illegal aliens represent profit to some sectors of the economy.


24 posted on 11/15/2006 1:02:53 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Lancey Howard

Impeachment, not conviction. That's their idea of "getting even".


25 posted on 11/15/2006 1:03:29 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: Lancey Howard
CSpan has been showing moot court on it for a couple of years already, so it's not like they'd have to be starting everything from scratch. You won't see any special prosecutor involvement in it, cuz the last one didn't produce the desired results. The "looney-tune base" is in charge & the goal is resignation.

Much of the "base" from the right has withdrawn support from the administration, so members in the GOP will help.
26 posted on 11/15/2006 1:07:24 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: HarryCaul

Right, like when Ford was reelected...


27 posted on 11/15/2006 1:08:13 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: IrishRainy

[It'll have to be big and horrific, and even then they'd probably forget about it after 10 years.]

Unless the hijacked jetliner crashes into the Academy Awards Ceremony in Hollywood.


28 posted on 11/15/2006 1:08:23 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
[It'll have to be big and horrific, and even then they'd probably forget about it after 10 years.] Unless the hijacked jetliner crashes into the Academy Awards Ceremony in Hollywood. Are you kidding? In the movie version, they'd turn the Islamists into Christian fundamentalist, Republican, Wal-Mart clerks.
29 posted on 11/15/2006 1:17:32 AM PST by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
hijacked jetliner crashes into the Academy Awards Ceremony in Hollywood.

Hmmmm, now THERE'S an idea...

just kidding!

30 posted on 11/15/2006 1:20:37 AM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: GoLightly
The contents of the documents were not revealed, but one document, as described by the ACLU, is "a directive signed by President Bush granting the CIA the authority to set up detention facilities outside the United States and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees."

The second document, according to the group is a Justice Department legal analysis "specifying interrogation methods that the CIA may use against top Al Qaeda members."

This could be a problem if Bush authorized waterboarding in either of these memos. Things could nasty fast.

31 posted on 11/15/2006 1:26:19 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: GoLightly

32 posted on 11/15/2006 1:28:19 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SUSSA
This could be a problem if Bush authorized waterboarding in either of these memos. Things could nasty fast.

1. It is highly unlikely the President would not specify interrogation techniques in a memo.
2. "Waterboarding" is a psychological tool, not physical torture where pain is infllicted. At the time these memos were written, the technique was not even an issue and had not been addressed by Congress.

33 posted on 11/15/2006 1:36:00 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Noted & marked. I hope I'm wrong.


34 posted on 11/15/2006 1:36:27 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: Darkwolf377

If the rats are indeed stupid enough to drag the nation through the meaningless spectacle of trying to impeach a lame duck President less than two years before the next election, then good - - maybe it will keep them out of real mischief. Like legislating.


35 posted on 11/15/2006 1:39:27 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
The contents of the documents were not revealed, but one document, as described by the ACLU, is "a directive signed by President Bush granting the CIA the authority to set up detention facilities outside the United States and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees."

The second document, according to the group is a Justice Department legal analysis "specifying interrogation methods that the CIA may use against top Al Qaeda members."

According to the article he did specify methods. Second, in 1901, a US court martial sentenced Major Edwin Glenn to 10 years hard labour for subjecting a suspected insurgent in the Philippines to the "water cure".

After the second world war, US military commissions successfully prosecuted as war criminals several Japanese soldiers who subjected US prisoners to waterboarding.

In 1968, a US army officer was court martialled for helping to waterboard a prisoner in Vietnam.

In April 2006, in a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, more than 100 U.S. law professors stated unequivocally that waterboarding is torture, and is a criminal felony punishable under the U.S. federal criminal code.

Also the UCMJ specifically outlaws it. This could, at the very least, cause a very nasty court fight. Just pray he didn't listen to Gonzalez and authorize it in writing.

36 posted on 11/15/2006 1:46:33 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Omega Man II
The contents of the documents were not revealed, but one document, as described by the ACLU.

as described by the ACLU????

HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA /burp AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ACLU HAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA

37 posted on 11/15/2006 1:48:40 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Omega Man II

Excellent, President goes up in my estimation.


38 posted on 11/15/2006 2:01:58 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: Omega Man II
The Central Intelligence Agency has acknowledged for the first time the existence of two classified documents, including one signed by President George W. Bush, that have guided the agency's interrogation and detention of terror suspects.

I should hope so, because he's the President.

39 posted on 11/15/2006 3:48:36 AM PST by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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To: Omega Man II
I'm sure there is no where in these classified documents that President Bush is telling the CIA Interrogators to break kneecaps and smash fingers.
40 posted on 11/15/2006 4:04:00 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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