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To: TeenagedConservative
It's better in the long run if the Libertarians steal enough elections from the Republicans...

I don't understand why losertarians hang here? They thump their chest, proclaim their lofty ideology is near the conservative goal, yet different...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.

6 posted on 11/14/2006 6:32:47 PM PST by Drango (Earth first, we'll strip-mine the other planets later!)
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To: Drango

Hey, it's going on right now on another thread. If we elect a candidate that can beat Hillary the unhappy people will take their votes and go third party, which is what she is counting on.. a repeat of Perot.


10 posted on 11/14/2006 6:35:43 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Drango
I don't understand why losertarians hang here?

Well, they need some place to go and show just how selfish, egotistical and immature they are.

17 posted on 11/14/2006 6:41:03 PM PST by technomage (Protest Voters are ignorant, immature, selfish people who have no capacity for long term thinking)
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To: Drango

"Losertarians"...interesting new name for the GOP....


21 posted on 11/14/2006 6:45:48 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Drango
Maybe if the GOP wasn't hell bent on abandoning the Constitution, emulating Democrats, and electing RINO's... we wouldn't need to vote Libertarian.
22 posted on 11/14/2006 6:46:18 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Drango
It's better in the long run if the Libertarians steal enough elections from the Republicans...

Because after the Libertarian elected Democrats have changed the election laws so that no Republican will ever win again, and make sure the courts are stacked with liberals, thus assuring our country's further slide towards degeneracy, apathy, stupidity until we're all a bunch of 40 year-old over taxed losers living in our mom's basement ripe for invasion by Islamic hoards who will subject us to thousands of years of slaughter and enslavement before they utterly screw up the world in some kind of freak accident killing off all intelligent life until millions of years later when the (I don't know,... let's say llamas) llamas develop the ability to produce tools and then their own society based on peace, happiness, some spitting, and equality thus making everything worth it.

Those Liberaltarians really think ahead.

25 posted on 11/14/2006 6:48:15 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Drango
>>...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.<<

That's because they are basically anarchists who have a burr under their saddle no matter who is in power. However, as much as they would like to claim the blame for the Republicans losses, their claims are much like the small time burglars who flood the police with claims of guilt when a major theft has occurred by professional thieves.

26 posted on 11/14/2006 6:48:30 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Drango
I don't understand why losertarians hang here? They thump their chest, proclaim their lofty ideology is near the conservative goal, yet different...

Constitutionally minded conservative libertarians 'hang here' because the site is dedicated, in part, to constitutional restoration.

And, as you so wisely note, restoring our Constitution is indeed a lofty goal.. -- Its only 'different' to those who are incapable of understanding liberty as practiced by libertarians, and call them 'loosers' out of misguided spite.

34 posted on 11/14/2006 6:55:48 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Drango
I don't understand why losertarians hang here? They thump their chest, proclaim their lofty ideology is near the conservative goal, yet different...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.

This is not a Republican website. It is a conservative one, and in fact is much more libertarian than Republican, when you consider what small-l libertarian means and what capital-R Republican is, these days.

In fact, as you can see on the FR home page:

Free Republic is not affiliated with any political party, group, news source, government agency or anyone else.
Furthermore, the site used to proclaim quite prominently a mission that supports my point...


What is our mission? Free Republic is dedicated to reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and is advocating a complete restoration of our constitutional republic. Listed below are some of the issues we feel strongly about.

Basically, we believe that the Founders designed our system of government in the form of a constitutionally limited republic, with maximum freedom intended for the people and minimum government control or interference into our personal lives and business affairs.

The united states of America was intended to be a federation of sovereign states, each with its own constitution and state government. Governments at all levels -- federal, state and local -- were to be controlled by the people. Our Constitution explicitly restricts the power of our federal government; and our Bill of Rights guarantees that NO government may infringe upon our God given unalienable rights. This is to ensure that the real power remains close to home, with the states, the local governments and always in the hands of the people.

We the People have granted our federal government limited powers to oversee certain things, such as national defense, interstate commerce, the postal service, the coining of money, and the operation of a court system. Most other powers now in the hands of the federal government were illegally usurped from the states and from the people.

Somehow, over the years, our guiding principles of law, as set forth in the Constitution, have been eroded to the point that the federal government now has total control -- leaving the states impotent and the people as captive servants to the federal government. This must be reversed if we are to survive as a free Republic and a free people.

We at Free Republic are determined to return the Constitution to its rightful place as the Supreme Law of the land as the Founders intended.

It is not necessary for everyone to hold the same views to be members of Free Republic, however, many of us do share many of the following as common beliefs and goals:


I would love it if the GOP returned to these principles...but I am not going to discard the Constitution to chase after them.
38 posted on 11/14/2006 6:59:55 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Drango
"I don't understand why losertarians hang here? They thump their chest, proclaim their lofty ideology is near the conservative goal, yet different...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.

Myself being a "losertarian" (little l), I find myself in agreement with republicans 80% of the time, and almost always vote republican. This year I voted 'straight R' for the first time ever, in spite of being the most unhappy with the republicans I've ever been. I just recognized what was at stake, and didn't want to vote for surrender, but that's just me. I can completely understand why others would have not voted for republicans, though I would disagree with them.

Rather than bitching about libertarians after they deservedly lose an election, republicans should analyze and figure out why the libertarian wing of their party didn't show up, and do what they can to draw them back for the next election. Libertarians not voting for republicans, is as bad for republicans as religious conservatives staying home. Like it or not, that's just how it is.

39 posted on 11/14/2006 7:01:05 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Drango
"I don't understand why losertarians hang here?"
The libertarian tradition could be traced at least to Jefferson - and who [if sober] would deny his conservative bona fides? Thus they hang here [if they so choose] because they rightly belong.
41 posted on 11/14/2006 7:01:52 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Drango
Free Republic. I'm a conservative in practice, but a libertarian in politics. Just because I think that assisted suicide, drugs, gay marriage, etc. are all morally wrong doesn't mean I want to ban them.

Besides, the Republican Party has failed even conservatives. Doubling the national debt in 6 years?
49 posted on 11/14/2006 7:08:07 PM PST by TeenagedConservative
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To: Drango
when their ideology sucks votes from Republicans


When there ideology sucks votes from the big government,social right, nanny stater's...fixed it.
98 posted on 11/14/2006 7:44:35 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Drango
when their ideology sucks votes from Republicans


When there ideology sucks votes from the big government,social right, nanny stater's...fixed it.
99 posted on 11/14/2006 7:44:40 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Drango

"I don't understand why losertarians hang here?"

I don't understand why you big government, country club republicans hang here. Don't you have another entitlement to grow?


133 posted on 11/14/2006 8:29:23 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Drango
I don't understand why losertarians hang here? They thump their chest, proclaim their lofty ideology is near the conservative goal, yet different...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.

It's a very empty victory for the libertarians.

They may feel like they are perfectionists, or idealists, or non-compromisers, but I think they are masochists who revel in their misery.

They same is true for the "true conservatives" who would not vote for "RINOs", or the Immigration myopia crowd.

The democratic strategists threw all kinds of wedge issues at us and we split up like a cheap suit.

283 posted on 11/15/2006 9:39:41 AM PST by oldbrowser (The liberal media has effectively taken away our "Freedom of the Press".)
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To: Drango
...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.

Libertarian ideology did not "suck votes" from Republicans. Those votes don't "belong" to the Republican Party and are not theirs by Divine Right. If the Republicans field truly conservative candidates then they have nothing to fear.

323 posted on 11/15/2006 2:03:06 PM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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