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The Libertarian Effect
Real Clear Politics ^ | 11/13/06 | ROSS KAMINSKY

Posted on 11/14/2006 6:25:58 PM PST by Purple GOPer

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To: Dead Corpse
In the three races mentioned in this article, the Republicans who lost had good conservative voting records.

And in the dozen or so others, they didn't.

LOL!

So, you admit you are insane and incapable of telling fact from fiction.

This will certainly save time...

Republican Incumbents Who Lost in the House:

Vacated Republican seats lost

Democrat Incumbent seats lost

Mostly conservatives, a few borderline Northeast conservatives, a few RINO's and no liberals.

101 posted on 11/14/2006 7:46:17 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

The ACU's "ratings" have been hashed out on a dozen threads already. About as accurate as any other "polling" data....


102 posted on 11/14/2006 7:49:22 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dead Corpse
The only one standing around with a hose is the libertarian you won't associate with.

An ineffective, low pressure hose does me no good.
Guess I'm screwed.

103 posted on 11/14/2006 7:50:33 PM PST by MamaLucci (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Dead Corpse
The ACU's "ratings" have been hashed out on a dozen threads already. About as accurate as any other "polling" data....

I've seen a few failed attempts to make that argument on other threads.

Cite why the ACU ratings are inaccurate.

104 posted on 11/14/2006 7:52:32 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Mostly conservatives, a few borderline Northeast conservatives, a few RINO's and no liberals.

Just a few crooks, at least one pervert that I know of...

105 posted on 11/14/2006 7:53:03 PM PST by lakey
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

"Screw them, they can keep on voting for the Democrats like they always have... they are Cultural Marxists..."

They are suicide bombers -- but without a suicide bomber's quiet dignity.

Their whole "theology" is outcome based.

In order argue their high-minded right to stay stoned on weed (or whatever they can get) they will subscribe to open borders, defunding the military -- anything that will justify doping themselves.

Getting stoned is always job one. Just give them their bongs, man.

Which, given how naturally stupified they seem to be, would seem to be overkill. But there they are.


106 posted on 11/14/2006 7:53:07 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Gondring

How many seats from your party were voted into office?


107 posted on 11/14/2006 7:53:49 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"Hey, it's going on right now on another thread. If we elect a candidate that can beat Hillary the unhappy people will take their votes and go third party, which is what she is counting on.. a repeat of Perot."




Somebody let me off this merry-go-round!!!!!!!


Will they never learn???

Maybe we should just cut to the chase and elect Osama binLaden.


108 posted on 11/14/2006 7:54:29 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Barbour/Steele '08)
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To: uncbob
They were remoseful as hell as soon as Clinton started with his BS

While a passionate conservative in 1992, I was young and pathetically naive... all I knew was that Bush Senior wasn't as conservative as I wanted and I voted third party.

I was remorseful as hell THE MORNING AFTER THE ELECTION when I saw that an oily, lying sleazebag had won... and that was before we had a clue as to the horrendous damage he was going to do to America for 8 years.

109 posted on 11/14/2006 7:56:00 PM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Purple GOPer
The small (l)ibertarians and social conservatives share one, overriding goal...a return to the 10th amendment and the power to legislate extra-constitutional issues to the states. We are strict constructionists all.

This is the opposite of what the dims want.

110 posted on 11/14/2006 7:56:26 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Anti-Hillary

It's like groundhog day. I can see we never learn from history in this country.


111 posted on 11/14/2006 7:58:24 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Sam Hill

In order argue their high-minded right to stay stoned on weed (or whatever they can get) they will subscribe to open borders, defunding the military -- anything that will justify doping themselves.



OOkaaay. Back that up. It's a lie and you can't.


112 posted on 11/14/2006 7:58:34 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Tamzee

You can add me to the list that did the exact same thing. I learned a valuable lesson. It's one thing to have strong values, another to cut off your nose to spite your face.


113 posted on 11/14/2006 7:59:39 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: UpAllNight
You mistake the samll l and Large L libertarians.

The GOP has a libertarian wing...it's largest and oldest faction.

114 posted on 11/14/2006 8:00:02 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Dead Corpse

Libertarians are such liars. Here is their official "stance" on abortion:

Official Website of the Libertarian National Committee

I.8 Reproductive Rights

The Issue: The tragedies caused by unplanned, unwanted pregnancies are aggravated and sometimes created by government policies of censorship, restriction, regulation and prohibition.
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml#reprodright

Translation: "if it feels good, do it, baby!"

Funny, that's their answer to almost everything.


115 posted on 11/14/2006 8:00:08 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Blackirish

You mean they aren't for open borders or defunding the military.

Maybe you should read their platform for the last forty years.


116 posted on 11/14/2006 8:01:43 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: uncbob

I will always vehemently disagree with anyone who seems to want to damage, or place in jeopardy, the nation that my grandchildren have to live in. It is admirable for one to want to fight for something you believe in but it is not admirable to burn down the neighborhood in order to do it. There are some conservative fiscal qualities of Libertarians that I admire. However, as one who believes that nothing is more dangerous than a crowd of people, Libertarians belief that society should be totally free of all government, I see as a grave threat to a safe societal structure.


117 posted on 11/14/2006 8:11:41 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Tamzee
And here is what the now most powerful man in Congress was doing:

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., speaks during a news conference on Social Security on Capitol Hill, in Washington, D.C. in this May 3, 2005 file photo, as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., listens. Should the Democrats pick up 15 or more seats and gain control of the House of Representatives on November 7, 2006, the Harlem congressman who would become chair of the powerful tax-writing Ways & Means Committee. +++++ But those Libertarian really taught us all a lesson.

118 posted on 11/14/2006 8:11:49 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Purple GOPer
My Governor was elected, because the brother of our popular former GOP Governor ran third party. The Governor just got reelected, even though he's under Federal investigation. Besides the pay for play in this state, the Governor appointments to the state Election Commission changed election laws in the middle of the election. The ink wasn't even dry on the change in the law before the ads came out about the Gov's opponent breaking the law.

Third parties all wanna start at the top, before they have enough widespread support to do much, beyond act as spoilers. Gain some states & then take them national or you're gonna end up hurting the pols closest to the direction you want things to go the worst. I think most Greens finally figured that out.

If I was gonna start a new party, I'd rip one right out of the middle of the two currently battling for power. I'd grab up every DINO & RINO that I could get my hands on, with one exception. I'd put integrity in government down as my first plank & open government would be my second plank. I'd air all of the dirty laundry of the Democrats & Republicans, all of the back room deals of both sides, so I'm sure I'd have plenty of ammo.

119 posted on 11/14/2006 8:12:59 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: Sam Hill
Unless your pretending to be denser then you are...a common debating ruse on FR....

you already know there is a big difference betewen small libertarians/conservatives vs card carrying big L members.
120 posted on 11/14/2006 8:13:06 PM PST by Blackirish
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