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U.S. Must Prove It's a Staying Power(Mark Steyn opines.)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 12, 2006 | MARK STEYN

Posted on 11/13/2006 11:45:24 AM PST by kellynla

On the radio a couple of weeks ago, Hugh Hewitt suggested to me the terrorists might try to pull a Spain on the U.S. elections. You'll recall (though evidently many Americans don't) that in 2004 hundreds of commuters were slaughtered in multiple train bombings in Madrid.

The Spaniards responded with a huge street demonstration of supposed solidarity with the dead, all teary passivity and signs saying "Basta!" -- "Enough!" By which they meant not "enough!" of these murderers but "enough!" of the government of Prime Minister Aznar, and of Bush and Blair, and troops in Iraq. A couple of days later, they voted in a socialist government, which immediately withdrew Spanish forces from the Middle East. A profitable couple of hours' work for the jihad. I said to Hugh I didn't think that would happen this time round. The enemy aren't a bunch of simpleton Pushtun yakherds, but relatively sophisticated at least in their understanding of us.

We're all infidels, but not all infidels crack the same way. If they'd done a Spain -- blown up a bunch of subway cars in New York or vaporized the Empire State Building -- they'd have re-awoken the primal anger of September 2001. With another mound of corpses piled sky-high, the electorate would have stampeded into the Republican column and demanded the U.S. fly somewhere and bomb someone.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
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I didn't see this posted already. So here it is.
1 posted on 11/13/2006 11:45:27 AM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

bttt


2 posted on 11/13/2006 11:49:40 AM PST by knews_hound (Sarcastically blogging since 2004.)
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To: kellynla
"These Colors Don't Run" is a fine T-shirt slogan, but in reality these colors have spent 40 years running from the jungles of Southeast Asia, the helicopters in the Persian desert, the streets of Mogadishu.

Ouch! That hurts....

3 posted on 11/13/2006 11:51:45 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Pokey78

Steyn ping!


4 posted on 11/13/2006 11:52:13 AM PST by maryz
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To: kellynla

Of Iraq he says: "We think we can just call off the game early, and go back home and watch TV." We have, and this election proves it, lost our nerve.


5 posted on 11/13/2006 11:55:34 AM PST by sarasota
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To: kellynla
Whether or not Rumsfeld should have been tossed overboard long ago, he certainly shouldn't have been tossed on Wednesday morning. For one thing, it's a startlingly brazen confirmation of the politicization of the war, and a particularly unworthy one: ... The president's firing of Rumsfeld was small and graceless.

Again, Steyn nails it. Firing Rumsfeld was probably the right thing to do, and should have happened a long time ago. Even thought I think he should have been removed earlier, doing it immediately after a lost election was an unworthy act. Were I still in uniform, and still in Iraq, I'd have not taken that well. If for no other reason, the troops deserved better than seeing their boss deposed in a brazenly political retreat.

6 posted on 11/13/2006 11:59:23 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: kellynla
Something of a replay of the same rhetoric from the Vietnam era (can we prove we can take it?). Not convincing then or now.

article: "It's difficult to conceive of any more public diminution of a noble cause than to make its leadership contingent on Lincoln Chafee's Senate seat. The president's firing of Rumsfeld was small and graceless."
Dead on.
7 posted on 11/13/2006 12:01:45 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: expatpat
"These Colors Don't Run"

Yeah, but a laundry-themed slogan for our military is pretty weak to begin with. Maybe I'm alone in this but I think a lot of the military slogans are just stupid. Army Of One? That's not the point of an army. Armies of one are guerillas.
8 posted on 11/13/2006 12:05:28 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: kellynla

I wonder if Mark Steyn would be willing to run for President. Thanks for posting his latest nail hitter, kellynla.

BTTT


9 posted on 11/13/2006 12:08:46 PM PST by Chena (Our troops could teach you alot about determination, courage, and honor if you'd listen.)
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To: Steel Wolf

I agree. He should have been given the choice to resign back in August or July, or wait until the end of December, just before the new Congress took over. I am of the belief that Rummy wanted to go because he had enough. However, it made Bush look small, petty, and Pelosi's dog!


10 posted on 11/13/2006 12:09:22 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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The Viet Nam war was lost in America not Viet Nam and the same will apply in Iraq if the "Cut & Run" Leftists have their way...again!


11 posted on 11/13/2006 12:10:51 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom ain't free. Semper Fi)
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To: SandRat; freema

ping


12 posted on 11/13/2006 12:12:01 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi)
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To: Chena

Mark Steyn was born in Canada and therefor cannot be president. A bloody shame really.


13 posted on 11/13/2006 12:15:34 PM PST by fortress
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To: sarasota
I think he's dead wrong on this. Our problem in Iraq isn't that we've "lost our nerve" . . . it's that we haven't had much nerve to begin with -- or that we haven't put the nerve we do have to good use.

The GOP lost last week not just because of anti-war sentiment from the left, but because of anti-war sentiment from the right. The left never wanted to be there in the first place, while the right has no patience for a half-@ssed military campaign in times like this.

14 posted on 11/13/2006 12:20:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: kellynla
As it is, we're in a very dark place right now. It has been a long time since America unambiguously won a war, and to choose to lose Iraq would be an act of such parochial self-indulgence that the American moment would not endure, and would not deserve to. Europe is becoming semi-Muslim, Third World basket-case states are going nuclear, and, for all that 40 percent of planetary military spending, America can't muster the will to take on pipsqueak enemies. We think we can just call off the game early, and go back home and watch TV.
15 posted on 11/13/2006 12:23:57 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: Alberta's Child

The left may never have wanted to be in Iraq in the first place but their representatives voted to be there. Where were their voices then? Surely you agree with Steyn that Rumsfeld "certainly shouldn't have been tossed on Wednesday morning" (under the bus)? He goes on, "The president's firing of Rumsfeld was small and graceless." He nailed it.


16 posted on 11/13/2006 12:30:53 PM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota
Rumsfeld should have been gone a long time ago -- on his own volition, I mean.

I would have tossed myself out on my own @ss over the limitations the Beltway political class had put on the execution of the war.

17 posted on 11/13/2006 12:36:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

That truly is the bottom line. How does the saying go? "Those who do not understand history are destined to repeat it". Or something like that. Deja vu.


18 posted on 11/13/2006 12:41:09 PM PST by sarasota
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To: kellynla
Can't we learn our lessons from the Korean Police action?

Millions of South Koreans are free because Truman sent our troops over there.

30,000 US troops died in Korea
in 3 years under Democratic President Truman

10 times as many men died under Truman (30,000) as have died under Bush (3,000) in approximately the same length of time (3 years)

19 posted on 11/13/2006 12:51:34 PM PST by syriacus (Millions in South Korea are free because 30,000 US troops DIED in 3 years under TRUMAN.)
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To: sarasota

The voters and the media have proved that Americans do not have staying power. Our enemy now has it confirmed.


20 posted on 11/13/2006 12:53:46 PM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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