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To: anita; Alas Babylon!; Fury; Matchett-PI; oldglory; gonzo; Bob Ireland; MinuteGal
If anyone is to be blamed, it 's those so-called-conservatives who readily threw stones at the President & the party to promote their books & the Madrassa Media.

Blame it on whoever you wish.

We, the majority of the House, Senate, and the Whitehouse never had it so good and Lord knows when we will again. Talk about squandered opportunities!

As for CFR, "W" dropped the ball BIG TIME!
President Bush should have NEVER signed the bill. As leader, he should have ripped that CFR bill in two. Then he should have told McCain and Feingold to shove it up their ass.
To sign a bill in anticipation of a Supreme Court over-ruling is lacking in leadership.

So go ahead and blame the media and the political pundits peddling their wares.
As for me, I'll place the blame where it belongs. The majority party with a minority mindset.

Flame away all you wish....

260 posted on 11/12/2006 7:12:10 AM PST by mcmuffin (My can of vintage '94 GOP WhoopA$$- Where'd it go?________________( flat)
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To: mcmuffin
As for CFR, "W" dropped the ball BIG TIME! President Bush should have NEVER signed the bill. As leader, he should have ripped that CFR bill in two.

I think that 's UNFAIR. Prez never supported CFR. But McCain was standing on the table & shouting all over the Madrassa Media that he won't allow ANYTHING done in the senate if he is denied CFR.

You know Jeffords is about to switch & Daschle is going to be the leader. Prez did what anyone could pragmatically do under these conditions.

Prez's many achievements after that were listed on this forum.

275 posted on 11/12/2006 7:22:29 AM PST by anita
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To: mcmuffin
Talk about squandered opportunities!>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are absolutely 100% Correct. AND if the conservative agenda is NOT re-established, we will be inaugurating President Hillary Clinton in 2009.

AND THIS ALSO BEARS REPEATING: I COULD NOT WRITE IT ANY BETTER:

"So go ahead and blame the media and the political pundits peddling their wares.As for me, I'll place the blame where it belongs. The majority party with a minority mindset."

Kudos to you McMuffin.

285 posted on 11/12/2006 7:28:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: mcmuffin
"The majority party with a minority mindset."

You are so right. I'm so ticked at all the quarterbacks blaming the "stay-at-home Republicans", the "fundamentalists", the "religious right", the "single-issue Republicans", the "offended base", blah, blah, ad nauseum.

Anything to shift the blame from the Republican administration, the RNC and the hollow "leaders" of the GOP onto the weary, demoralized backs of November 7th's Republican voters, subdivided or in general.

The pre-election arrogance and tone-deafness of the Pub "leaders" continues unabated post-election. Read any election analysis article written by a GOP leader, listen to any TV election analysis spoken by a GOP leader.......you can detect who overtly or covertly gets the blame for the defeat. It's you and me, brother, plus convenient gone-guys like Foley and the very Rev. Haggard.

How many times do you see Frist, Hastert, Mehlman, Rove, Warner, McCain, etal get any serious blame for anything? These guys never blame themselves or each other after apocalyptic political catastrophes.

We here on FR have nothing to be embarrassed or ashamed about. We did our part. Would that our "leaders" had done the same. They ignored us, they looked down on us, yet they took our money and hard work.......and did what they pleased (mostly nothing, including years of failed PR).

Now it looks like many Republican incumbents who survived Armageddon plan to continue on their own merry, detached-from-party-principles way.

They're already playing footsie with the Dems on immigration, minimum wage, cut-and-run.........while we get the blame for their weakened position and loss of power.

Leni

336 posted on 11/12/2006 7:57:18 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: mcmuffin

bttt


538 posted on 11/12/2006 10:24:53 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: mcmuffin
ref #260, Republicans and GJB thought that the CFR would be knocked down by a sensible Court,unfortunately that did not happen. we need to blame McCain for this,and knock the Hell out of him in the Primaries in 2008. He was even trying to go back in and make the Bill worse than it is. He was so confident that the DBM would suck up to him and he would win the Primaries with the help of his sleazy DBM friends that I believe he Pushed this Bill just to get to run for President. That may sound sinister,and conniving, but I believe that was his plan all along. I think he was very wrong about the DBM, they have a lot of unused dirt on him, and I hope he has lots on them. He will never get the nomination, especially now that he has created such a mess.
625 posted on 11/12/2006 12:05:19 PM PST by samantha (Cheer up,the Adults are in charge,but need reinforcements very soon.)
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To: mcmuffin
Re: your Post #260

Exactly right.

714 posted on 11/12/2006 1:39:22 PM PST by Gritty (When we act like us we win. When we act like them we lose. - Dick Armey)
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To: mcmuffin
***I'll place the blame where it belongs. The majority party with a minority mindset***

Woefully true...

I wrote a piece for local consumption having to do with - for one thing - the possible criminal charges in Europe against Rumsfeld and Atty Gen'l Roberto Gonzalez and how that - along with endless Congressional subpoenas and investigations - may precipitate wholesale desertions amongst the military over the next six months or so... BUT, your e-mail comes back undeliverable... can you send me your new e-mail address, please?

723 posted on 11/12/2006 2:00:17 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: mcmuffin

The President has a veto pen for a reason. To use it. You're absolutely right about McCain-Feingold and his excuse for not vetoing it.


735 posted on 11/12/2006 2:11:48 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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